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De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 07. Mar 2025, 19:13:04
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Stefan Claas <fgrsna.pynnf@vagrearg.eh> wrote:
Rich wrote:
Stefan Claas <fgrsna.pynnf@vagrearg.eh> wrote:
Hi all,
 
just for fun, or maybe for real usage. ;-)
 
A small Windows .exe
 
https://github.com/706f6c6c7578/mouse_entropy
 
Not likely as "random" as one would think.  Better than nothing as
well.
 
Well, why not as random?

Because humans are very decidely "not very random" (although we like to
think we are).

I think you can't generate the same mouse movement twice, right?  And
how could we call that?

If you just 'monitor' the mouse while it's being moved, there will be
decidedly "non-random" aspects to the movement.  I.e., for the same
task X, a very similar set of mouse movements will be involved.  Will
there be some 'jitter' in the movements?  Yes.  But that jitter will
likely not be as much as you'd think to gain a truly 'random' output.

And if you specifically ask users to "move the mouse randomly" you'll
simply get side to side shaking, up/down shaking, or spinning in a
circle.  None of which are terribly random movements.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Mar 25 * Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)39Stefan Claas
5 Mar 25 +* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)32Rich
6 Mar 25 i`* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)31Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i +* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)23Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)22Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)20Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i i+* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)12Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii`* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)11Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i ii `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)10Marcel Logen
6 Mar 25 i i ii  `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)9Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii   `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)8Marcel Logen
6 Mar 25 i i ii    +- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i ii    `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)6Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii     `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)5Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i ii      `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)4Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii       `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)3Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i ii        +- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii        `- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Chris M. Thomasson
6 Mar 25 i i i+* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)6Marcel Logen
6 Mar 25 i i ii+- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Marcel Logen
6 Mar 25 i i ii+- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 i i ii`* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)3Richard Heathfield
6 Mar 25 i i ii `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)2Marcel Logen
6 Mar 25 i i ii  `- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Richard Heathfield
7 Mar 25 i i i`- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Marcel Logen
7 Mar 25 i i `- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Rich
7 Mar 25 i +- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Rich
8 Mar 25 i `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)6Grant Taylor
8 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)5Stefan Claas
8 Mar 25 i   `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)4Richard Heathfield
8 Mar 25 i    `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)3Stefan Claas
8 Mar 25 i     `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)2Richard Heathfield
8 Mar 25 i      `- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Stefan Claas
6 Mar 25 +- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Chris M. Thomasson
21 Mar 25 `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)5Gabx
21 Mar 25  `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)4Richard Heathfield
22 Mar 25   `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)3Gabx
22 Mar 25    `* Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)2Richard Heathfield
23 Mar 25     `- Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-)1Gabx

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