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Sujet : Re: AI's take on my cipher...
De : stefan (at) *nospam* mailchuck.com (Stefan Claas)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 13. Jul 2025, 08:09:40
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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 7/12/2025 12:59 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
Rich wrote:

You are not fighting "encryption" here, you are fighting the fact that
few care enough and are motivated to learn.  And that battle will not
be won by better cryptography, nor by better user interfaces.  The only
way those folks will use "secure means" is if the secure means happens
all automatically, by default, without their knowledge, for them.
 
And you know very well that this will not happen, because companies are
not willing to defeat this known issue and only offline encryption and
decryption is the way to go, for secure communications.
 
Think of an offline encrypt with say, my symmetric HMAC cipher thing.
You save the ciphertext to a usb drive. Oh shit, say the offline
computer is infected with a virus, and the USB is now highly suspect.
Sigh... Alice gives the USB to Bob, key/viral exchange, say a new key is
encrypted in the ciphertext... ;^). Bob just infected his computer with
the virus before decrypt even occurs. Now, if this is all offline, then
the virus should not be able to use the net to infect. However, it might
have a keylogger and alter your encrypted messages right after you click
encrypt or something? So, you think you encrypt the message attack at
dawn. The keylogger changes dawn to dusk -before- it gets passed into
the cipher to do its thing, so to speak...
 
So, offline encrypting Alice and Bob would need to be _sure_ that their
devices are _secure_, aka, no malware, ect... and for this aspect, no
internet access, wifi, bluetooth, ect, signals,... Its in a, say a
fractal cloak, so to speak. Check this out: fractenna.com. They have
them.

You see, this topic is always left out by security experts, when discussing
encryption.

For an initial set-up of an offline device it can be used once online and
to install the required programs. Later you send/receive files with a 3,5
inch drive and disks. Their are so loud that you can here read/write access
and only have 1.4 MB storage capacity which you can easily inspect with
a disk monitor.

But you must hurry to get disks and a drive at Amazon, because when
stocks run out, I am not sure if they are re-filling.

Regards
Stefan

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Jul 25 * AI's take on my cipher...64Chris M. Thomasson
6 Jul 25 +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...61Stefan Claas
6 Jul 25 i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...60Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...59Stefan Claas
7 Jul 25 i  +- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i  +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...6Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i  i+* Re: AI's take on my cipher...3Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i  ii`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Rich
8 Jul 25 i  ii `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
8 Jul 25 i  i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2colin
8 Jul 25 i  i `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i  `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...51Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i   `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...50Stefan Claas
7 Jul 25 i    `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...49Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i     `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...48Stefan Claas
7 Jul 25 i      `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...47Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i       `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...46Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i        +- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i        `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...44Stefan Claas
7 Jul 25 i         +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...42Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i         i+- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i         i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...40Stefan Claas
7 Jul 25 i         i `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...39Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jul 25 i         i  `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...38Stefan Claas
8 Jul 25 i         i   `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...37Chris M. Thomasson
8 Jul 25 i         i    `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...36Stefan Claas
8 Jul 25 i         i     +- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Stefan Claas
9 Jul 25 i         i     +- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Rich
9 Jul 25 i         i     `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...33Chris M. Thomasson
9 Jul 25 i         i      `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...32Stefan Claas
9 Jul 25 i         i       `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...31Chris M. Thomasson
10 Jul 25 i         i        `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...30Stefan Claas
10 Jul 25 i         i         +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Chris M. Thomasson
10 Jul 25 i         i         i`- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
11 Jul 25 i         i         `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...27Richard Heathfield
11 Jul 25 i         i          `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...26Stefan Claas
11 Jul 25 i         i           +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...3Richard Heathfield
12 Jul 25 i         i           i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Stefan Claas
13 Jul 25 i         i           i `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
12 Jul 25 i         i           `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...22Rich
12 Jul 25 i         i            `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...21Stefan Claas
13 Jul 25 i         i             +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...19Chris M. Thomasson
13 Jul 25 i         i             i+* Re: AI's take on my cipher...3Stefan Claas
13 Jul 25 i         i             ii`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Rich
13 Jul 25 i         i             ii `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
13 Jul 25 i         i             i+* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Stefan Claas
13 Jul 25 i         i             ii`- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Rich
13 Jul 25 i         i             i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...13Rich
13 Jul 25 i         i             i `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...12Stefan Claas
13 Jul 25 i         i             i  +- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Stefan Claas
14 Jul 25 i         i             i  `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...10Rich
14 Jul 25 i         i             i   `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...9Stefan Claas
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...4Stefan Claas
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...3Rich
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    i `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Stefan Claas
15 Jul 25 i         i             i    i  `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Rich
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    +* Re: AI's take on my cipher...3Rich
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    i`* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Stefan Claas
15 Jul 25 i         i             i    i `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Rich
14 Jul 25 i         i             i    `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson
13 Jul 25 i         i             `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Rich
16 Jul 25 i         `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Stefan Claas
15 Jul 25 `* Re: AI's take on my cipher...2Chris M. Thomasson
15 Jul 25  `- Re: AI's take on my cipher...1Chris M. Thomasson

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