Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 08:31:47 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 04:41:11 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
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On 2025-02-22, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

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Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold
higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not

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That 1s an example of how to lie using statistics,  instead compare those who had the
surgery against those who were refused it.
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It is well known that certain right wing idiots like to bully
transgender people, and also well known that being bullied is correlated
with suicide.  This is perhaps a partial explanation of why risk is
sill elevated after the surgery. 

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A trans person is unlikely to be bullied in person, so should stay off
social media and advertising their status to said right-wing idiots.
If more people would stop staring at their phones all day, being
"social", there would be far fewer "trans" people. Factor of 10
roughly.
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A similarly bad agument (to yours{?} above) could be made that those who had surgery to remove
cancers are more likely to die of cancer, than those were not given
that surgery (since not dignosed with cancer).

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But most cancers were dependably fatal. And now many cancers are
routinely curable. Some in minutes. And cancer surgery is based on
sound medical practice.
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Let physically normal kids work their way through puberty before we
apply irreversable chemical or surgical procedures.

Not defening bullies or bullying, but the fact of the matter is that
people who are bullied when they're young often go on to great things.
Look on it as character-building if you will. And empowering. There
was some saying I can't quite bring to mind about all the major wars
being won on  the playing fields of Eton. Obviously Bill Sloman will
disagree, but that's just Bill, and his counsel may be safely ignored.