Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?

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De : christopher (at) *nospam* librehacker.com (Christopher Howard)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Feb 2025, 00:36:17
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> writes:

I assume that your "leads" are a coax.

Yes, the loads something my co-worker threw together from old cable
laying around. One one side is BNC that plugs into the signal generator.
After than is a thin coax about 3mm thick. At the other end, he split
the inner conductor and the shield into two leads, one with a pin at the
end, and one with an alligator lead.
>
How are you measuring that noise? It's more likely to be ground loop
noise than coax shield leakage.

I have a project I'm doing building my own analog computer — which
currently does not have any filtering installed on it, other than some
100 nF bypass caps. I can see this heavy noise — about .6 mV p-p — on
all signal output, regardless of what op amp I tap into. If I remove the
analog computer and just tie the signal generator to the scope, I see
the same noise.

If I turn the computers off around my workbench, the noise becomes less,
proportional to the percentage of computers I turn off. If I take the
signal generator and the computer into another room with no computers,
the noise almost vanishes.

>
Common-mode chokes, ferrites or toroids, can help. Just plugging the
generator and the scope into the same outlet may help.
>

I am planning to go that route, with the chokes and such, once some
parts come in. But I was also wondering about the single leads
themselves, which feed from the signal generator into analog computer
inputs.

--
Christopher Howard

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19 Feb 25 * signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?55Christopher Howard
19 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?32John Larkin
19 Feb 25 i+- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?30Christopher Howard
20 Feb 25 i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?3Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1legg
20 Feb 25 i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?24Martin Brown
20 Feb 25 i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?23Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?20Martin Brown
21 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?19Christopher Howard
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24 Feb 25 i i i   i  `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?11Christopher Howard
25 Feb 25 i i i   i   `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?10Bill Sloman
25 Feb 25 i i i   i    `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?9Christopher Howard
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20 Feb 25 i  `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
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20 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?5Bill Sloman
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