Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators

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Sujet : Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators
De : JL (at) *nospam* gct.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 18. Oct 2024, 16:36:15
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:48:17 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Edward Rawde <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
Is the reason why this doesn't produce a better looking sinewave because
the amplifier slew rate is faster going down than it is going up or some
other reason?
 
Ignore the wild decoupling, it took me long enough to get the concept to
work at all.
 
I'm aware that a single package containing two op amps could probably do a
much better job.
>
if noise is more important than waveform, I found amplitude control by
clipping gave the lowest noise.  The oscillators in this...
>
<http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/DistortionMeter/intermodmeter.htm>
>
...are amplitude stabilised by clipping.

If the gain of an oscillator loop is close to 1.00, say 0.98 to 1.02,
one can add in a small tweak, a crude multiplier or even a clipper, to
make up the difference.

Of course, with many-bit DACs being cheap nowadays, it's easier to do
a DDS sine wave generator, and get super-precise frequency and
amplitude. A 70 cent uP can do that, and even use PWM to eliminate the
DAC.

All sorts of elegant analog circuits are blown away by cheap digital
junk. Sigh.


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16 Oct 24 * Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators55Edward Rawde
17 Oct 24 +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators46piglet
17 Oct 24 i`* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators45piglet
18 Oct 24 i `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators44Edward Rawde
18 Oct 24 i  `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators43piglet
18 Oct 24 i   `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators42Edward Rawde
18 Oct 24 i    +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators11john larkin
19 Oct 24 i    i`* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators10piglet
19 Oct 24 i    i +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators7KevinJ93
19 Oct 24 i    i i+* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators5piglet
19 Oct 24 i    i ii`* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators4KevinJ93
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18 Oct 24 i      i   +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators21Cursitor Doom
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18 Oct 24 i      i   ii +- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Joe Gwinn
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19 Oct 24 i      i   ii i`- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Edward Rawde
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19 Oct 24 i      i   ii    `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators9Bill Sloman
19 Oct 24 i      i   ii     `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators8Edward Rawde
20 Oct 24 i      i   ii      `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators7Bill Sloman
20 Oct 24 i      i   ii       `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators6Edward Rawde
20 Oct 24 i      i   ii        +- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Edward Rawde
21 Oct 24 i      i   ii        `* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators4Bill Sloman
21 Oct 24 i      i   ii         +- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Edward Rawde
21 Oct 24 i      i   ii         +- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Edward Rawde
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19 Oct 24 i      i    `- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Bill Sloman
19 Oct 24 i      `- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1piglet
18 Oct 24 +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators2Bill Sloman
18 Oct 24 i`- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Edward Rawde
18 Oct 24 +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators5Liz Tuddenham
18 Oct 24 i`* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators4john larkin
18 Oct 24 i +* Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators2Cursitor Doom
18 Oct 24 i i`- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1john larkin
19 Oct 24 i `- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Bill Sloman
18 Oct 24 `- Re: Random thoughts on sinewave oscillators1Jan Panteltje

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