Re: another hint of quantum consciousness

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 23:28:40 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:kaicejdhq0cudpivno5qmtes8al3tu8hje@4ax.com...

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:04:32 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:31kbejpg6dos3fdm81oq42a4rgcenu4lk1@4ax.com...

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:36:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 9/14/24 17:13, john larkin wrote:

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https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/
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Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when
an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified.
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I paraphrase: "Since we don't know how it works, it must be quantum".

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Or, more conventionally, "It can't be quantum because QM only works at
liquid helium temperatures."
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That's it then: Quantum-something is merely religion. The god of the
gaps.
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There's a lot of quantum nonsense about. This is just one example.
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Well, explain how we can name one image out of maybe a million stored
images, in a fraction of a second.

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In a way which is similar to the way this does it.
https://www.google.com/search?&q=eiffel+tower&udm=2
Just in reverse.
So choose any of the above images and save it.
Now go here
https://images.google.com/
And upload the image and see how long it takes for the words "eiffel tower" to appear.
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Also it's possible you might not know the correct spelling.
https://www.google.com/search?&q=ifle+tower&udm=2

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Does the lack of response here mean that you agree that I provided a valid explanation of how
"we can name one image out of maybe a million stored images, in a fraction of a second." ?
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No-one is suggesting that Google does it exactly the same way the human brain does
but you asked for an explanation of how it is possible.
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Face and voice recognition are similarly amazing.

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But it is becoming much easier to do them without a human brain as time goes by.
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Of course, the machines and the code that do google's image matching
were designed by people.
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You mean like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_Zero
is just code so all it can do is something like
if {player makes this move} then {respond with that move} ?
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If you're going to stick with the idea that something designed people then what designed the thing which designed people and what
designed the thing which designed the thing which designed people?
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What are you going to say when a thing designed by people becomes able to design electronic circuits better than you can?
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