Re: degrees

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Sujet : Re: degrees
De : JL (at) *nospam* gct.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 19. Oct 2024, 20:02:09
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:18:23 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 10/19/2024 9:50 AM, bitrex wrote:
It acts like there's some nice low-risk generic "baseline job" you can get with
just a high school degree in the US, there isn't.
>
Waiting tables?  Fast food counter-person?  Here, they are:  landscapers,
swimming pool cleaners, etc.  Your total "investment" is the means of
transportation you use to get to the gigs.
>
You can do about one of three things (unless work for your Daddy is an option):
go into the trades,
>
Tradesmen tend to have trouble as they age and their bodies can't
keep up with the demands of their trade.  So, you have to aspire
(and work) to become a "Master" so you can have "Apprentices"
in your later years *or* stash a lot of your earnings (after
union dues) and hope to retire early.  Nothing sadder than some
carpenter, roofer, automechanic, etc. doubled over with back
problems from advanced age.
>
try to start your own business and probably fail, or get a
>
It takes a particular mindset and level of discipline to
"have no boss".  And, in order to remain viable, a keen eye
on the trends in your particular market.
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low-paid job in the service industry about which every right-winger will tell
you "just get a better job!" if you complain.
>
All of the "low end" jobs effectively pay the same.  A job
may be "better" in some sense (working conditions, hours,
job description) but rarely a significant enough boost in
income to move you into a higher socioeconomic class.
>
Or some combination.
>

How about a plumber at $150 an hour?


Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Oct 24 * degrees27john larkin
19 Oct 24 +* Re: degrees6bitrex
19 Oct 24 i`* Re: degrees5john larkin
19 Oct 24 i +* Re: degrees3bitrex
19 Oct 24 i i`* Re: degrees2Cursitor Doom
20 Oct 24 i i `- Re: degrees1Bill Sloman
19 Oct 24 i `- Re: degrees1Cursitor Doom
19 Oct 24 +* Re: degrees9bitrex
19 Oct 24 i`* Re: degrees8Don Y
19 Oct 24 i +* Re: degrees4bitrex
20 Oct 24 i i+- Re: degrees1Don Y
20 Oct 24 i i`* Re: degrees2Don Y
20 Oct 24 i i `- Re: degrees1Don Y
19 Oct 24 i `* Re: degrees3john larkin
20 Oct 24 i  `* Re: degrees2bitrex
21 Oct 24 i   `- Re: degrees1Jan Panteltje
19 Oct 24 +- Re: degrees1Cursitor Doom
20 Oct 24 +* Re: degrees6Jeff Liebermann
20 Oct 24 i+* Re: degrees4Joe Gwinn
20 Oct 24 ii`* Re: degrees3Jeff Liebermann
20 Oct 24 ii `* Re: degrees2Joe Gwinn
20 Oct 24 ii  `- Re: degrees1Jeff Liebermann
20 Oct 24 i`- Re: degrees1Don Y
20 Oct 24 +- Re: degrees1Bill Sloman
21 Oct 24 `* Re: degrees3Tom Del Rosso
22 Oct 24  +- Re: degrees1Bill Sloman
24 Oct 24  `- Re: degrees1Martin Brown

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