Re: CO2 Funny

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Sujet : Re: CO2 Funny
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 26. May 2024, 06:38:11
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On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
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Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
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Spoken like a true liberal.
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When things don't go your way... start name calling.
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Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
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Indeed.
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That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
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John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
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 Why does that matter to you so much?
 I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
 If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral.
I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
I got into electronics while a I was doing a Ph.D. physical chemistry. Win Hill started a Ph.D. in chemical physics, but had better advisors.
Getting things working is always important, but understanding the detail of what's going on can be vital to getting them to work well.
When I was working at Cambridge Instruments (1982-1991) it was mostly on projects,but between projects I'd get stuck with "mods" which was looking at what production was complaining about and reworking the circuit that they were complaining about to make it better behaved. A lot of that was correcting the original designer's minor mistakes.
One of them wasn't all that minor - somebody has used a 741 in a place where it's pop-corn noise got amplified to the point where the heaters in our GaAs single crystal puller were effectively pulse width modulated with a cycle time of about a minute or so. Replacing the 741 with a marginally less ancient part with a pop-corn noise spec meant that the heaters ran continuously at something like 30% of full capacity.
It made the operating environment a lot more peaceful and may have produced more-nearly-strain-free single crystal GaAs.

If I open the FET book at a random page I find a circuit which may be usable as the basis of something I want to "design".
This isn't true of the physics book but that doesn't mean I don't find it to be interesting or useful knowledge.
 Human psychology obviously plays a big part in electronics design as it does in electronics designers.
 It does seem to be a trait of many (not all) electronics designers that if another designer isn't doing it the way they would do it
then they must be doing it wrong.
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of works, ship it" camp.
Management liked him because he was quick. Production was less enthusiastic.
Would you be kind enough to give your opinion of John Larkin once per month instead of twice per day?
When he starts claiming to do electronic design once a month rather than twice a day.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 24 * CO2 Funny68john larkin
21 May 24 +* Re: CO2 Funny2Bill Sloman
21 May 24 i`- Re: CO2 Funny1John R Walliker
21 May 24 `* Re: CO2 Funny65chrisq
21 May 24  `* Re: CO2 Funny64john larkin
21 May 24   +* Re: CO2 Funny62john larkin
21 May 24   i+* Re: CO2 Funny60john larkin
22 May 24   ii+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   ii+* Re: CO2 Funny48jim whitby
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny2jim whitby
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny42john larkin
22 May 24   iiii+* Re: CO2 Funny40john larkin
23 May 24   iiiii+* Re: CO2 Funny17Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny16Edward Rawde
26 May 24   iiiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny14Bill Sloman
26 May 24   iiiiii i`* Re: CO2 Funny13Edward Rawde
26 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
27 May 24   iiiiii i i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Jeroen Belleman
27 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny7Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i i`* Re: CO2 Funny6john larkin
27 May 24   iiiiii i i `* Re: CO2 Funny5Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i i  `* Re: CO2 Funny4john larkin
28 May 24   iiiiii i i   `* Re: CO2 Funny3Bill Sloman
28 May 24   iiiiii i i    `* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
28 May 24   iiiiii i i     `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i `* Re: CO2 Funny3Cursitor Doom
28 May 24   iiiiii i  `* Re: CO2 Funny2Bill Sloman
30 May 24   iiiiii i   `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
26 May 24   iiiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
23 May 24   iiiii+* Re: CO2 Funny16john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
24 May 24   iiiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny14john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny10Joe Gwinn
24 May 24   iiiiii i`* Re: CO2 Funny9john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii i i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii i `* Re: CO2 Funny6Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i  `* Re: CO2 Funny5john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii i   `* Re: CO2 Funny4Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i    `* Re: CO2 Funny3Mike Monett VE3BTI
25 May 24   iiiiii i     +- Re: CO2 Funny1Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i     `- Re: CO2 Funny1Jeroen Belleman
24 May 24   iiiiii +- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii +- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iiiii+- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
26 May 24   iiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny5Cursitor Doom
26 May 24   iiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny3john larkin
27 May 24   iiiii i+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiii i`- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
27 May 24   iiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   ii`* Re: CO2 Funny10Jeroen Belleman
22 May 24   ii `* Re: CO2 Funny9john larkin
22 May 24   ii  +* Re: CO2 Funny6john larkin
22 May 24   ii  i+- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
23 May 24   ii  i+* Re: CO2 Funny3chrisq
23 May 24   ii  ii`* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
23 May 24   ii  ii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   ii  i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   ii  +- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   ii  `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman

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