Re: Speed limiters

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Sujet : Re: Speed limiters
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 07. Jul 2024, 17:57:50
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On 7/7/2024 9:08 AM, KevinJ93 wrote:
On 7/7/24 9:00 AM, Don Y wrote:
<....>
Nothing for the cruise control touches the brakes.  It relies on the engine to
slow the vehicle.
>
There are newer "collision avoidance" systems that will actively brake
if they sense you're approaching an object with which you may collide.
>
Newer cruise controls will adaptively adjust speed to prevent you from
creeping up the backside of the vehicle in front of you.
 <...>
 Many adaptive cruise control systems (but not all!) have full authority down to zero-speed; they control the brakes as well as the throttle.
This ---------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is the difference between them and legacy
"cruise control" systems.  It can only control the vehicle's speed to the same
degree that a human can /with just the throttle/.
In The West, it is not uncommon to find yourself driving through varying
elevations (mountains).  Relying solely on the engine for braking often
won't allow you to comply with the posted speed limits *or* "safe driving
conditions".
[OTOH, being overly reliant on the brake can lead to brake overheating and
failure]

This is separate from any collision avoidance functions.
 Some adaptive cruise control systems (on for example older Audi and Nissan vehicles) disengage at speeds around 10-15mph and just leave the car rolling without any control. If you did not takeover they could collide with anything in front.
I've not seen the limits for adaptive controls; whether they refuse to engage
at lower speeds AT ALL.  But, this would be consistent with legacy systems.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Jul 24 * Speed limiters64Don Y
6 Jul 24 +* Re: Speed limiters11Jeff Layman
6 Jul 24 i`* Re: Speed limiters10Don Y
6 Jul 24 i +* Re: Speed limiters4Jeff Layman
6 Jul 24 i i`* Re: Speed limiters3Don Y
7 Jul 24 i i `* Re: Speed limiters2Jeff Layman
7 Jul 24 i i  `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
7 Jul 24 i `* Re: Speed limiters5bitrex
7 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Speed limiters4Don Y
7 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Speed limiters3bitrex
7 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Speed limiters2Don Y
7 Jul 24 i     `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
6 Jul 24 +* Re: Speed limiters25Robert Roland
6 Jul 24 i+* Re: Speed limiters23Don Y
6 Jul 24 ii+* Re: Speed limiters4Jeroen Belleman
6 Jul 24 iii`* Re: Speed limiters3Don Y
7 Jul 24 iii `* Re: Speed limiters2Jeff Layman
7 Jul 24 iii  `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
7 Jul 24 ii`* Re: Speed limiters18Robert Roland
7 Jul 24 ii `* Re: Speed limiters17Don Y
7 Jul 24 ii  +* Re: Speed limiters14KevinJ93
7 Jul 24 ii  i`* Re: Speed limiters13Don Y
8 Jul 24 ii  i `* Re: Speed limiters12KevinJ93
8 Jul 24 ii  i  +- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
8 Jul 24 ii  i  `* Re: Speed limiters10Jeff Layman
8 Jul 24 ii  i   +* Re: Speed limiters4Phil Hobbs
9 Jul 24 ii  i   i`* Re: Speed limiters3Jeff Layman
9 Jul 24 ii  i   i `* Re: Speed limiters2Phil Hobbs
10 Jul 24 ii  i   i  `- Re: Speed limiters1Jeff Layman
8 Jul 24 ii  i   +- Re: Speed limiters1KevinJ93
9 Jul 24 ii  i   `* Re: Speed limiters4Martin Brown
9 Jul 24 ii  i    `* Re: Speed limiters3Jeff Layman
9 Jul 24 ii  i     +- Re: Speed limiters1Phil Hobbs
13 Jul 24 ii  i     `- Re: Speed limiters1Martin Brown
7 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: Speed limiters2Robert Roland
8 Jul 24 ii   `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
7 Jul 24 i`- Re: Speed limiters1Robert Roland
6 Jul 24 `* Re: Speed limiters27Martin Brown
6 Jul 24  +* Re: Speed limiters9Phil Hobbs
6 Jul 24  i`* Re: Speed limiters8Martin Brown
6 Jul 24  i +* Re: Speed limiters4Jeff Layman
7 Jul 24  i i`* Re: Speed limiters3Phil Hobbs
7 Jul 24  i i `* Re: Speed limiters2Phil Hobbs
7 Jul 24  i i  `- Re: Speed limiters1bitrex
7 Jul 24  i +- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
7 Jul 24  i `* Re: Speed limiters2bitrex
7 Jul 24  i  `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
6 Jul 24  `* Re: Speed limiters17Don Y
7 Jul 24   `* Re: Speed limiters16Jeff Layman
7 Jul 24    +* Re: Speed limiters14Martin Brown
7 Jul 24    i+- Re: Speed limiters1Jeff Layman
7 Jul 24    i`* Re: Speed limiters12Don Y
7 Jul 24    i `* Re: Speed limiters11Martin Brown
7 Jul 24    i  +* Re: Speed limiters3Don Y
9 Jul 24    i  i`* Re: Speed limiters2Martin Brown
10 Jul 24    i  i `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
7 Jul 24    i  `* Re: Speed limiters7Jeff Layman
8 Jul 24    i   +- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y
8 Jul 24    i   `* Re: Speed limiters5Martin Brown
8 Jul 24    i    `* Re: Speed limiters4Jeff Layman
8 Jul 24    i     +- Re: Speed limiters1Martin Brown
8 Jul 24    i     `* Re: Speed limiters2Jeroen Belleman
8 Jul 24    i      `- Re: Speed limiters1Martin Brown
7 Jul 24    `- Re: Speed limiters1Don Y

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