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De : alien (at) *nospam* comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
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Date : 21. Aug 2024, 16:09:21
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On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:43:55 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in <6oubcj5r9fduockf0j1ind3r1lpe5p61pa@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:27:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
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On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:25:27 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in <3kg9cj1fp2jifl9vre6ad7tkd0cj4fp1ac@4ax.com>:
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:13:39 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
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On 20/08/2024 16:30, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Edward Rawde <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"john larkin" <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in message
I preferred Popular Electronics myself.
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Just as elsewhere at the time you might only have had access to Rossiyskaya Elektronika.
The world was smaller then.
 
Back when I was 21 and trying to come up to speed in RF, I learned a lot
from RF Design and Wireless World.
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WW was good on content but circuit diagrams in it were somewhat badly
typeset at times - just enough to make it tricky to get working.
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Elektor was the other European mag back then and it is still going. They
had a summer special with loads of circuit ideas much like IU. Quirky
resistors as rectangular boxes was one of their trademarks.
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Do kids these days have similar guides to designing real electronics?
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When I interview an engineer, recent grad or not, I give them my
2-resistor voltage divider test. Most start mumbling and can't do it.
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Apart from 'Elektor', that was called 'Electuur' here in the Netherlands,
we had 'Radio ELectronica' that last one was my faforite,
Way before that we had 'Radio Blan':
https://archive.org/details/radio-blan/Radio_Blan_01_juli_1960/
Used to read that and build those projects.. If I could get the parts...
Componets from 'Amroh'
https://became.nl/amroh/Geschiedenis%20AMROH/historie1.htm
their '402 coil' (medium wave coil) was seen in many projects.
 Amroh goes back to 1932...
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As to 2 resistors that sounds bad...
I remember asking to draw a transistor relais driver to see if they forgot the flyback protection diode...
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The really advanced question is to state the voltages in an emitter
follower.
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I recently hired a kid who flubed the voltage divider question. 10
volt supply, 9K and 1K divider, what's the voltage across the 1K? He
mumbled and said 9.

Oops!

Maybe we should ask 'did you ever design something or build something yourself at home?'



He seems bright and enthusiastic and already knows a lot about
Raspberry Pi Pico (ie the RP2040 chip). So he can do software while I
teach him some electronics.

Sounds promising, for interfacing a Pico some knowledge about voltage dividers and other components is essential.


I don't use flyback diodes much any more. Most mosfets are controlled
avalanche, whether the data sheet says so or not. I tested an FDV301
for a billion shots just to be sure.

In the US is the legal situation not so that when a plane crashes because of some transistor and you used that component out of spec you pay?
As to engineering: hard to believe, but Boeing just stopped testing their 700X, it started showing cracks..
 https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/2024/08/19/boeing-halts-777x-flight-tests-over-damage-found-in-engine-mount/

When the old generation dies all their real experience and ideas go with them to 'effen'.
Maybe <here we go again, brain starts> we could someday grab that with a brain scan and re-insert it in the new ones?
Or at least stuff that into some AI system.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Aug 24 * yes!92john larkin
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!6Joe Gwinn
15 Aug 24 i`* Re: yes!5john larkin
15 Aug 24 i `* Re: yes!4Edward Rawde
15 Aug 24 i  `* Re: yes!3john larkin
15 Aug 24 i   +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
15 Aug 24 i   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
15 Aug 24 +- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!4Jeroen Belleman
15 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
16 Aug 24 i`- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!79Martin Brown
15 Aug 24 i+* Re: yes!76john larkin
16 Aug 24 ii+* Re: yes!5Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 iii`* Re: yes!4john larkin
17 Aug 24 iii +- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 iii `* Re: yes!2Jeroen Belleman
17 Aug 24 iii  `- Re: yes!1Martin Brown
16 Aug 24 ii`* Re: yes!70Martin Brown
17 Aug 24 ii +* Re: yes!50john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii i+* Re: yes!48Jan Panteltje
17 Aug 24 ii ii`* Re: yes!47john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii ii +* Re: yes!3Jan Panteltje
17 Aug 24 ii ii i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii ii i `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii ii +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii ii `* Re: yes!42Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 ii ii  `* Re: yes!41john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii ii   `* Re: yes!40Bill Sloman
18 Aug 24 ii ii    `* Re: yes!39john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii ii     `* Re: yes!38Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii ii      `* Re: yes!37john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii ii       +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii       `* Re: yes!35john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii        `* Re: yes!34Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         +* Re: yes!32john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i+* Re: yes!22Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii`* Re: yes!21john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii `* Re: yes!20Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii  `* Re: yes!19john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   `* Re: yes!18Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii    `* Re: yes!17Phil Hobbs
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii     `* Re: yes!16Martin Brown
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii      `* Re: yes!15john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       +* Re: yes!2Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       i`- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       `* Re: yes!11Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        +* Re: yes!8john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i`* Re: yes!7Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i +* Re: yes!2john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i i`- Re: yes!1Jeroen Belleman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i `* Re: yes!4Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i  +- Re: yes!1john larkin
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i  `* Re: yes!2Jan Panteltje
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        `* Re: yes!2Gerhard Hoffmann
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii         `- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i+* Re: yes!6Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii`* Re: yes!5Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii `* Re: yes!4john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii  `* Re: yes!3Jeroen Belleman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i`* Re: yes!3Joe Gwinn
21 Aug 24 ii ii         i `* Re: yes!2john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         i  `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii         `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii i`- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii `* Re: yes!19john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii  +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii  +- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
17 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: yes!16Martin Brown
18 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: yes!15john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii    `* Re: yes!14Bill Sloman
18 Aug 24 ii     `* Re: yes!13john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii      +* Re: yes!3Edward Rawde
18 Aug 24 ii      i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii      i `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii      `* Re: yes!9Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii       `* Re: yes!8Jan Panteltje
19 Aug 24 ii        `* Re: yes!7john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii         +* Re: yes!3Phil Hobbs
19 Aug 24 ii         i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii         i `- Re: yes!1Phil Hobbs
19 Aug 24 ii         `* Re: yes!3Joe Gwinn
19 Aug 24 ii          `* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii           `- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
16 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
16 Aug 24 i`- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
19 Aug 24 `- Re: yes!1Sylvia Else

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