Re: About WiFi7

"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:vabe2v$142d4$2@dont-email.me...

On 8/23/2024 5:39 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:

Would you, instead, like that to be conveyed to your ISP via your access point,
over-the-air to your cell phone -- which you will have to access in order to
"see" the scene?  All those third-parties on which you will rely?

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What does my ISP have to do with packets traveling between devices on my LAN??

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Do you have a long cord connecting your LAN to the car as it approaches from
down the street?

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Why would anyone need to see inside their garage as they approach from down the street??

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You don't -- unless the door doesn't want to open on your command.  Here,
if that happened because SWMBO was digging through the freezer chest and
the dogs were at her feet, I would TELL her to get the dogs in the house
so I could pull in.

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How would you know in advance that the door wasn't going to open on your command?

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YOU DON'T!  The *door* (house) does!
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How would you tell her? By phone? Isn't that inconvenient?

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*YOU* can't!  *I* can!  I have a button on the dash that connects me to
the house via a "long range (1/2 mile) cordless phone".  So, I can talk
TO THE HOUSE (not to her) and tell *it* that I am on the way home -- adjust
the HVAC, lighting and entertainment, accordingly.  If I've been out
shopping, maybe tell SWMBO (for me) that I am on my way and would appreciate
some help unloading the car.  Open the garage door BEFORE I get to the house
and have to wait for it to completely open.
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If THE HOUSE realizes that it can't safely open the door, the HOUSE tells
me.

You have very clever houses in your area.
I prefer to adjust the lighting when I'm at home, not from half a mile away.

 If the reason is "because someone/something has been detected IN
the garage", then I have the option to view the overhead video (normally
used as an aid in parking) to see the problem (maybe I forgot that I
was working in the garage and neglected to put the saw horses away)
or ASK WHOMEVER IS IN THE GARAGE if there is any reason they can't
make the garage safe for my entrance -- or, should I park on the driveway?
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No need for cell phones.  No need for third party services.
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Gee, can't you do that with your "I can work from any country" setup
(I can phone the house and tell it that "I will be home in 27 minutes"
and have it take those actions; can you?)
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I would put the freezer in the house and make sure the garage door is not obstructed by dogs or anything else.
Problem solved.

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Bigger house.  No pets.  I guess that's a naive solution.  Just tell
folks to park in the street is even simpler!
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One neighbor took the side off his car by misjudging his position
in the garage.  Another neighbor leaves her car in the driveway for
her husband to come out and pull it in.  Damn near everyone has some
hack in place to facilitate parking (tennis balls on strings,
floor mounted wheel guides, etc.)
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I guess if you have a 4 car garage and/or a basement some of these problems
can go away...
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Why would they need a garage door opener?  Why would that opener need safety
features?  If the nose of your car hangs above the photoelectric sensors,
will the door KNOW this?  Or, will it gladly close on your door, putting a
crease in your hood (when the over-current sensor on the motor detected the
"obstruction" -- BY TOUCH)?

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Sorry but I'm beginning to wonder whether you live on the same planet as me.

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Perhaps not.  This is Earth.  I see folks with rear windshield wipers torn
off their cars because they left the back hatch open when pulling in/out
of the garage.  Door dings because they couldn't precisely navigate their
position within the garage.
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I *watched* a neighbor RUN OVER his own child because the child ran to
fetch a ball that had rolled under the car as the father was backing out.
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Yes, Earth is a tough place.  Maybe it's nicer on Planet Fantasia...
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That's not under your control.  My WiFi use *is* under my control -- I own the
AP and the radio in the car.  No one else can connect to those things.
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If the location which does my oil change is uploading my driving habits to the car manufacturer then I would certainly like to
know
about that.

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They don't have to.  The CAR does it.

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By what means? Please describe the specific communication channel the car is using when it uploads my driving habits to the
manufacturer.

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Ask your car *manufacturer* what bands they use.

Is this the secret car communication network I'm not aware of?
I think maybe I'll just park my car in a Faraday cage.

 Did you read the
LexisNexis reference in the article YOU cited?  Where do you think
GM got the data for those drivers?  Do you think they voluntarily
filled out questionnaires:
- In the past 6 months, how many times have you exceeded 88 MPH?
- In the past 6 months, how many itme have you hard accelerated?
- In the past 6 months, how many times have you failed to wear a seat belt?
- In the past...
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They, as a service to you, will reset
the "maintenance minder" (that the car controls based on mileage, habits,
etc.).  The car *likely* would convey the event "Maintenance Minder Reset"
to the vendor.

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By what communication channel?

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See above.  What do you think YOU are going to do about it?
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  So, the vendor knows that SOMEONE serviced your vehicle
(and they can easily determine that it wasn't the dealer -- because the
dealer has no record of servicing your vehicle).  Provide the GPS
coordinates (available to the car at all times!)

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Jamming GPS isn't hard but we needn't go into that.

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Just don't tell the car that it has been serviced.  It can tell if
it has been refueled... but, not if it has had its oil changed,
tires rotated, serpentine belt replaced, etc.
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[I can tell -- to a high degree of certainty -- if someone in my house took
a bath, shower, or shit (and, whether or not he washed his hands!), based on
how long he was in the bathroom, the total volume of water consumed and its
rate of flow.]

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You must be popular with visitors.

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Goal is not to please visitors but to let the house assist aging occupants
with retaining their independence for as long as possible.  Delaying a
half million -- million dollar "buy in" with $3-6K monthly maintenance
for an extra year is worth a fair bit.  Detecting a potential hazard
("Help, I've fallen and can't get up!") adds to that value.
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Folks NOT in that situation can benefit from the houses anticipation of their
needs based on an analysis of their behaviors.  Why have to *tell* all
of the appliances in your house what you want?  Why can't they WATCH to
see how you've used them and infer that?
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