Re: OT: CERN cuts ties with Russia , will expel hundreds of scientists by December

On 22/09/2024 10:34 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 22 Sep 2024 20:30:22 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 22/09/2024 6:44 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 22 Sep 2024 02:11:16 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 22/09/2024 1:30 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:03:02 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 21/09/2024 7:52 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:51:34 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 21/09/2024 4:53 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

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You are effectively blind to the information he doesn't want to you to see.
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You do need to be more selective about where you get your information.
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John Larkin gets all his information about climate change from the
propaganda put out by the people who want to keep up digging up fossil
carbon and selling it for fuel. It's not the most reliable information
available, but he feels insulted when it is pointed out that this makes
him a gullible sucker.

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Climate change, well your programmer[s] need to read up
   https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240919174739.htm
    Over nearly half a billion years, Earth's global temperature has changed drastically, driven by carbon dioxide

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Which is not what John Larkin's snake oil salesmen are telling him. In
fact that paper explicitly repeats the scientific concensus on global
warming, though you don't seem to have read it carefully enough to notice.
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could not get the paper and graphs...
scare mongering works to increase sales of snake oil and 'lectric cars.

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That's what John Larkin's snake oil salesmen are telling him. More
reliable sources see it differently.
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My understanding of what the paper was about is that the temperature changes were MUCH higher than we so far knew about, that CO2 CORRELATED␣with those changes.

Not all that much higher. And everybody expects atmospheric CO2 levels to correlate with the surface temperature of the planet. Your understanding of the paper seems to be somewhere between superficial and non-existent.

If you look up old graphics you will see that at times CO2 was laggiong and then at the same time
changing as the temperature rise, not _leading_.

Idiot. When climate change is driven by the Milankovitch effect, CO2 levels lag temperature. When it was driven by methane release, as in the Paleocene-Eocene warm period, some 55 million years ago, they lead temperature. Do try to get your head around what actually happened, and why it was happening.

Once everybody moves electric (so to speak) and one big solar storm
kills all the overhead HV cables, or other mishaps, then
no rescue work is possible, no security services, no power generation.
no communication, etc etc..

Why would a big solar storm kill all the over-head cables? The 1859 solar storm messed up 1859 telegraph cables, but modern power cables are rather better protected.

We need DIVERSITY in power ,solar wind needs storage too,
big  storm and solar planes fly away, same for windmills,
this has already happened in places.

No all that many of them, and not all that often.

Good old coal, nuclear plants will be hit in wars, the idiot greens that did shut down
all nuclear power out of fear, will do more harm.

The objection to nuclear power is more that it has turned out to be remarkably expensive. The fact that you have to keep the radioactive waste from nuclear plants safely isolated for some 100,000 years is a problem, and one that we have yet to solve in the seventy-odd years we have been generating the stuff. You aren't frightened by nuclear power because you haven't got a clue about the risks involved.

All move into grass huts and wigwams, and democrat govs will allow
men-eating as they now do same sex stuff, the species will vanish like the Dinos
did..

The grass huts and wigwams are features of climate change denial propaganda - it is aimed at half-wits so they don't bother making it all that plausible.

Ants may take over, and one day a clever ant-archeologist will decipher your bak-sandals and
all may happen again.

Baxandall's class-D oscillator doesn't take much deciphering, and it has got nothing to do with climate change.

Species looking a bit different...

Gibbering idiots like you can still communicate and pass for human. You don't really pass the Turing test
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Bill Sloman, Sydney