Re: OT: Linix goes politics

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Sujet : Re: OT: Linix goes politics
De : llc (at) *nospam* fonz.dk (Lasse Langwadt)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 28. Oct 2024, 23:06:25
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On 10/26/24 20:15, Don Y wrote:
On 10/26/2024 6:18 AM, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
And to some extend it also protects Russian contributors from being the target of being forced to add "bad things"
 The problem with FOSS is the naive belief that "lots of eyes"
looking at the code *will* discover errors, bugs, etc.  This
is just wishful thinking.
  From "KLEE: Unassisted and Automatic Generation of High-Coverage
Tests for Complex Systems Programs":
       "We also used KLEE as a bug finding tool, applying it to 452
      applications (over 430K total lines of code), where it found
      56 serious bugs, including three in COREUTILS that had been
---> missed for over 15 years. Finally, we used KLEE to crosscheck
      purportedly identical BUSYBOX and COREUTILS utilities, finding
      functional correctness errors and a myriad of inconsistencies."
 So, folks have been looking at that code for "15 years" and still
didn't notice the bugs?
 The failure is in thinking that someone ELSE will have found the bugs
and taken action on correcting them.
 A "bad actor's" actions are, thus, largely innoculated from discovery.
And, as there is no easy way of tracking down who/what may have
already incorporated them, no easy way to "recall" those defective
products.  (closed source would have such a provision as the owner
of the source will likely know which products contain which bits
of code)
have you seen some of the closed source code that has tried to go open source? it usually fails because no one remembers what code was outright stolen, what was taken from open source and in violation of licenses, and what was bought from 3rd party with no right release, under NDA or violating patents

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Oct 24 * OT: Linix goes politics25Jan Panteltje
25 Oct 24 `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics24john larkin
26 Oct 24  +* Re: OT: Linix goes politics5Bill Sloman
26 Oct 24  i`* Re: OT: Linix goes politics4Lasse Langwadt
26 Oct 24  i `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics3Don Y
29 Oct 24  i  `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics2Lasse Langwadt
29 Oct 24  i   `- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1Don Y
26 Oct 24  `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics18Jan Panteltje
26 Oct 24   `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics17john larkin
26 Oct 24    +* Re: OT: Linix goes politics4Joe Gwinn
26 Oct 24    i`* Re: OT: Linix goes politics3Don Y
27 Oct 24    i `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics2Joe Gwinn
28 Oct 24    i  `- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1Don Y
27 Oct 24    +* Re: OT: Linix goes politics11Waldek Hebisch
27 Oct 24    i+* Re: OT: Linix goes politics5Don Y
27 Oct 24    ii`* Re: OT: Linix goes politics4Waldek Hebisch
27 Oct 24    ii +- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1Don Y
27 Oct 24    ii `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics2john larkin
28 Oct 24    ii  `- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1Jan Panteltje
27 Oct 24    i+* Re: OT: Linix goes politics4Jan Panteltje
27 Oct 24    ii`* Re: OT: Linix goes politics3Cursitor Doom
28 Oct 24    ii `* Re: OT: Linix goes politics2Jan Panteltje
28 Oct 24    ii  `- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1wmartin
28 Oct 24    i`- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1John R Walliker
27 Oct 24    `- Re: OT: Linix goes politics1Jan Panteltje

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