Re: OT: Trump's Cabinet Picks

On 21/11/2024 8:47 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Nov 2024 17:45:17 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vhmku6$hfh9$4@dont-email.me>:
 

On 21/11/2024 2:27 pm, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:55:12 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:13:19 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

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Russia versus YouCrane
It makes no sense other then weapon sales, weakening Europe, same as that other democrat Clinton did.

Russia seems to think it makes sense. It's been working on nibbling off bits of the Ukraine for years - starting with the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Zelensky wasn't in power back then. He didn't get elected until 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
This didn't generate much in the way of weapons sales. The Russian invasion of the Ukraine in 2022 did generate quite a lot of weapons sales, but that was a purely Russian initiative.

If you have a problem getting loose a big nut, use BIG pliers!
The nut in this case is Zelensky and sending toy drones is like destroying one precious tweezers after the other to get it lose.

Zelensky didn't start the war, and his crime - in your eyes - lies in his not having surrendered to the Russians in 2022 as they clearly expected him to.

Get the biggest pliers you have and that is nukes for Russia, nuke Kiev and be done with it
Bad? And what did the US do in WW2 with the Japanese civilians?

The Japanese did start that war - by the surprise attack on the American fleet at Pearl Harbour. It four years of very skilled and expensive work to get the Americans big enough pliers to discourage in the nuts in Tokyo.
Dropping hydrogen bombs on Kyiv might win the war against the Ukraine for the Russians, but the international reaction would probably drop a lot of hydrogen bombs on Moscow and every place where Russia has stocks of nuclear weapons. If Putin got that ambitious there's no telling where he would go next, and premptive destruction would probably minimise Western casualties in the long term  - they'd probably still be huge, but a premptive strike would probably destroy enough Russian nuclear weapons to save some lives in the long run.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney