Re: Battery (SLA) modeling

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Sujet : Re: Battery (SLA) modeling
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 14. Dec 2024, 02:57:04
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On 14/12/2024 4:23 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:57:54 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
 
At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a
fixed voltage source behind a series resistance?  Possibly, additionally,
a parallel RC to cover transients?
>
In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the
battery is being charged or discharged?  (i.e., to estimate that
series resistance)
 I've wondered about electro-chemical time lags, ions drifting around
in liquids, as in what would the Spice model of some battery be?
That's what Warburg impedances are about.

And
on a slower time scale, the morphology of a battery changes with time.
Nearly discharged batteries sure go Hi-Z.
 What we need here is a good physical chemistry guy.
I've got a Ph.D. in physical chemistry, but batteries are electrochemistry - I know a guy who has just completed a Ph.D. with a thesis on a particular lithium ion battery chemistry. It's a specialised subject.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Dec 24 * Battery (SLA) modeling23Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2John R Walliker
13 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Bill Sloman
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Liz Tuddenham
13 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 ii`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling8john larkin
14 Dec 24 i+- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1piglet
14 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling5Bill Sloman
17 Dec06:25 ii`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4bitrex
17 Dec12:22 ii `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Bill Sloman
18 Dec17:56 ii  `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2bitrex
18 Dec19:58 ii   `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Joe Gwinn
14 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Martin Brown
14 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4ehsjr
14 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
16 Dec21:16 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2ehsjr
17 Dec00:20 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
14 Dec 24 `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y

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