Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.

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Sujet : Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.
De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Edward Rawde)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 29. Jan 2025, 16:31:29
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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vnck1i$295d5$1@dont-email.me...
On 24/01/2025 5:02 pm, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vmv6ac$22ufe$1@dont-email.me...
On 24/01/2025 11:14 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
Before you can make a 1kHz sinewave oscillator with constant output level and better than 120dB harmonic distortion you'll need
an
oscillator which does better than that when it passes through the required output level.
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This is obviously true. Why do you think you need to tell us about it?
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You do make me laugh sometimes Bill.
Your circuit doesn't come anywhere close to 120dB but it does depend on which simulator you ask.
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I never said it did.

I never said you said it did.
Facts are still facts whether anyone says them or not.

I was looking for comments on the way the current mirrors might screw up the waveform. I didn't get any.
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Adding a FET gain stabilizer to the circuit I posted seems to have negligible effect on the distortion.
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Then you haven't looked at the current waveform going through the the FET.

But I have looked at the distortion level both with and without the FET stabilizer and I have not found any difference worth having
in an LTSpice simulation.
In any case the current going through the FET also goes through the parallel resistor which, as you pointed out some time ago,
should be as small as possible.

Perhaps JL would like to elaborate on what he means by two FETs in anti-parallel. How would you drive the gate of the other FET?

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So I'd concentrate on the oscillator distortion level rather than the gain controller contribution if I wanted to attempt better
than 120dB.
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And you'd probably better dump LTSpice 24.1 - it has been claimed that it has a serious bug.

Could you please provide a reference to this claim.
Who has claimed that it has a serious bug and is there an online discussion anywhere?
Exactly what is this serious bug other than the fact that your circuit gets completely different results?

That might explain why your simulations of my circuit run a thousand times slower for you than they do for me and a couple of
other people.

There is obviously a big difference but I have not so far seen any evidence to confirm that it is a serious bug.

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--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 



Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Jan 25 * Sinewave oscillator without gain control.15Edward Rawde
24 Jan 25 +* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.9Bill Sloman
24 Jan 25 i`* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.8Edward Rawde
29 Jan 25 i `* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.7Bill Sloman
29 Jan 25 i  +* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.2Edward Rawde
30 Jan 25 i  i`- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1Bill Sloman
29 Jan 25 i  +- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1Edward Rawde
29 Jan 25 i  +- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1Edward Rawde
30 Jan 25 i  `* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.2Edward Rawde
30 Jan 25 i   `- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1Bill Sloman
24 Jan 25 +* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.2albert
24 Jan 25 i`- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1John R Walliker
24 Jan 25 `* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.3john larkin
24 Jan 25  `* Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.2Edward Rawde
24 Jan 25   `- Re: Sinewave oscillator without gain control.1Edward Rawde

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