Re: programmable circuit breaker

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Sujet : Re: programmable circuit breaker
De : erichpwagner (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (piglet)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 05. Mar 2025, 10:32:02
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john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
 
We're designing a modular power system and figured we should have a
relay module, and my PCB layout guy is fast so I decided to whip out a
simple module.
 
Featuritus kicks in. We normally measure voltages and currents, so the
next logical step is to make it a programmable circuit breaker too.
That also protects my relays and PCB traces, to some extent.
 
So how might a user program a circuit breaker? Just RMS current with
some time constant? Allow fast and slow trips?
 
Fuses are usually specified to trip at some I^2*T, but that can't be
the whole story, because 1 mA is a lot of I^2*T in ten years.
 
And my current sensor saturates. If the module is specified for 7.5
amps, and the 10-amp Hall sensor saturates a bit past 12 amps, so a
zillion amps looks like 12 so the I^2*T math doesn't work at, say, 30
amps.
 
Sine waves sort of work if they don't clip too hard. Luckily, sine
waves are kinda flat on top.
 
So I need a trip algorithm. That will be executed in an FPGA that sees
a fast ADC that is digitizing the Hall sensor output.
 
 

Aren’t fuses specified by minimum carrying current? So a 1A fuse is
guaranteed to carry 1A forever and reacts I^2t only above that.

I guess your current sensor should remain monotonic upto the maximum
possible current your supply can generate?


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piglet

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Mar 25 * programmable circuit breaker26john larkin
5 Mar 25 +* Re: programmable circuit breaker14piglet
5 Mar 25 i+* Re: programmable circuit breaker12Phil Hobbs
5 Mar 25 ii`* Re: programmable circuit breaker11john larkin
5 Mar 25 ii `* Re: programmable circuit breaker10Liz Tuddenham
5 Mar 25 ii  +* Re: programmable circuit breaker4john larkin
6 Mar 25 ii  i`* Re: programmable circuit breaker3Lasse Langwadt
6 Mar 25 ii  i `* Re: programmable circuit breaker2Liz Tuddenham
6 Mar 25 ii  i  `- Re: programmable circuit breaker1john larkin
5 Mar 25 ii  +* Re: programmable circuit breaker2Don Y
5 Mar 25 ii  i`- Re: programmable circuit breaker1Don Y
5 Mar 25 ii  `* Re: programmable circuit breaker3piglet
5 Mar 25 ii   `* Re: programmable circuit breaker2john larkin
6 Mar 25 ii    `- Re: programmable circuit breaker1John R Walliker
5 Mar 25 i`- Re: programmable circuit breaker1Liz Tuddenham
5 Mar 25 +* Re: programmable circuit breaker7bp
5 Mar 25 i`* Re: programmable circuit breaker6john larkin
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5 Mar 25 i  `* Re: programmable circuit breaker4john larkin
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5 Mar 25 i    `* Re: programmable circuit breaker2john larkin
6 Mar 25 i     `- Re: programmable circuit breaker1bp
6 Mar 25 `* Re: programmable circuit breaker4Buzz McCool
6 Mar 25  `* Re: programmable circuit breaker3john larkin
9 Mar 25   `* Re: programmable circuit breaker2Klaus Kragelund
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