Re: Too much time on their hands!

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Sujet : Re: Too much time on their hands!
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Mar 2025, 03:18:43
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On 3/19/2025 2:49 PM, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 3/18/25 05:27, Don Y wrote:
On 3/17/2025 3:48 PM, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 3/17/25 13:25, Don Y wrote:
I stumbled on a nice little "tin" that I figured would be
great to repurpose.  Maybe store a selection of OTC medications
in it to keep on-hand, in the car?  It contained some round,
metallic "weights", carefully organized to suggest value:
    <https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LvEAAOSwIXlkH5k2/s-l1600.webp>
Chasing down the Logitech branding, it appears these are
used to alter the *weight* (feel) of a mouse:
    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/388072568821>
Sheesh!  Do these guys (PC gamers) have that much time/money
to spare that they are concerned with how *heavy* their
mouse feels?  Prior to the development of this mouse,
were gamers busily *taping* COINS and other masses onto
their mice just to improve their score??  Is the mouse's
mass that critical to its use?
>
[Shouldn't there also be a huge selection of available
COLORS, shapes, etc.???]
>
there is ...
>
There are cosmetic differences, not structural/functional ones.
 ok, if you say so ...
*LOOK* at the mice available.  They all highly resemble each other
in size and shape.  There are only a couple of different motion sensing
technologies used.  The interconnect is wired (PS/2, 9 pin serial, USB,
BT) which doesn't change the "feel" of the mouse.
The number and location of the buttons varies from a minimum of one to
as many as 6 or 7.  A scroll wheel may or may not be present -- and
the number of degrees of freedom can vary.  The contour can be
tailored to right-handed or left-handed users.
But, the basic "mouse" is the same -- just with differences in
"decorations".

I've probably tested 200 different mice, over the years.  (I can access
probably 40 on any given day) None "fit" my hand; they're all just
rehashes of the same basic design/size.  (gyromice being a notable
difference yet still a poor fit)
 obviously. as always for every answer you get you add five new reasons why it wasn't the answer you were looking for
What have I added?  The fact that a silly marketing gimmick doesn't
address a more important issue -- how the device actually *fits*
the user (*a* user -- me)?  Do you buy mice based WITHOUT concern for
how they fit/feel in your hand?
If you dislike my questions, posts, why get involved?

why is it so hard to imagine that you want to do something with speed and accuracy, weight and feel can make a difference?
>
Then a mouse would be the wrong sort of pointing device, wouldn't it?
 no, it is games played with a mouse
It is a game played with a POINTING DEVICE.  Why use a technology
that doesn't do what you want, *well*?

E.g., signing your name requires speed and accuracy -- yet a mouse
is far from even being an *adequate* device to achieve those goals!
 playing a game is not signing you name
Signing your name is a task that requires "speed and accuracy".
You decided this was the important criteria; I've provided an
example of just such an application where a mouse fails miserably.
Or, is there some other notion of "speed and accuracy" that applies
to games but not other activities?

There's a reason motion controllers exist -- wouldn't it seem obvious
that a "pointing device" suitable for gaming should exist as a different
beast, entirely?
 it is games played with a mouse.
It is a game played with a POINTING DEVICE.  Why use a technology
that doesn't do what you want, *well*?

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Mar 25 * Too much time on their hands!21Don Y
17 Mar 25 +* Re: Too much time on their hands!9john larkin
18 Mar 25 i`* Re: Too much time on their hands!8Martin Brown
18 Mar 25 i +- Re: Too much time on their hands!1Don Y
18 Mar 25 i `* Re: Too much time on their hands!6john larkin
19 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Too much time on their hands!5Martin Brown
19 Mar 25 i   `* Re: Too much time on their hands!4john larkin
19 Mar 25 i    `* Re: Too much time on their hands!3Martin Brown
20 Mar 25 i     `* Re: Too much time on their hands!2Gerhard Hoffmann
20 Mar 25 i      `- Re: Too much time on their hands!1john larkin
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Too much time on their hands!11Lasse Langwadt
18 Mar 25  `* Re: Too much time on their hands!10Don Y
19 Mar 25   `* Re: Too much time on their hands!9Lasse Langwadt
20 Mar 25    `* Re: Too much time on their hands!8Don Y
20 Mar 25     `* Re: Too much time on their hands!7Lasse Langwadt
20 Mar 25      `* Re: Too much time on their hands!6Don Y
21 Mar 25       `* Re: Too much time on their hands!5john larkin
21 Mar 25        `* Re: Too much time on their hands!4Liz Tuddenham
21 Mar 25         `* Re: Too much time on their hands!3john larkin
21 Mar 25          `* Re: Too much time on their hands!2Liz Tuddenham
22 Mar 25           `- Re: Too much time on their hands!1Don Y

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