Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website

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Sujet : Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 15. Mar 2024, 15:00:23
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On 3/15/2024 5:34 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-03-15 12:33, Peter wrote:
>
  Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
I operate a server in stealth mode; it won't show up on
network probes so robots/adversaries just skip over the
IP and move on to others.  Folks who *should* be able to
access it know how to "get its attention".
 What is "stealth mode", what do you do?
It's what you *don't* do that is important.
When you receive a packet, you extract all of the
information indicating sender, intended destination
port, payload, etc.
Then, DON'T acknowledge the packet.  Pretend the network
cable is terminated in dead air.
The *determined* "caller" sends another packet, some time later
(with limits on how soon/late this can be).
Again, you extract the information in the packet -- and
ignore it.
Repeat this some number of times for a variety of
different ports, payloads -- all traced back to the
same sender.
Then, on the *important* packet that arrives, subsequently,
acknowledge it with the service that is desired.
If the sequence is botched at any time -- like a sender doing
a sequential port scan -- then you reset the DFA that is
tracking THAT sender's progress through the automaton.
Note that you can handle multiple clients attempting to
connect simultaneously -- "hiding" from each of them
until and unless they complete their required sequences.
Anyone with a packet sniffer can be thwarted by ensuring
that the sequence is related to source IP, time of day,
service desired, etc.  (though security by obscurity)
Because you don't react to most (all?) packets, a systematic
probe of your IP will not turn up a "live machine" at your
end.
Once you actually acknowledge a packet, all of the
regular authentication/encryption/etc. mechanisms come
into play.  You just don't want to reveal your presence
unless you are reasonably sure the client is someone
that you *want* to have access...

Port knocking ;)
 I was thinking of using a high port. I do that.
But a port scanner can stumble on that.  Or, it can be leaked
by a malevolent user.
The "knock sequence" can be customized per sender IP address,
per client identity, per service, etc.  So, it's less vulnerable
than something (anything!) static.

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10 Mar 24 i   i`- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Jeff Liebermann
10 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website40legg
10 Mar 24 i    +- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
11 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website38Jan Panteltje
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11 Mar 24 i     i  `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website6Don Y
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12 Mar 24 i     i    +- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
12 Mar 24 i     i    `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website3Martin Brown
12 Mar 24 i     i     `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2legg
12 Mar 24 i     i      `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Peter
11 Mar 24 i     `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website27legg
13 Mar 24 i      `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website26Don Y
13 Mar 24 i       `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website25legg
14 Mar 24 i        `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website24Don Y
14 Mar 24 i         `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website23Peter
15 Mar 24 i          `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website22Don Y
15 Mar 24 i           +* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website9Liz Tuddenham
15 Mar 24 i           i+- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
15 Mar 24 i           i+* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website3Peter
15 Mar 24 i           ii`* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2Liz Tuddenham
15 Mar 24 i           ii `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Peter
15 Mar 24 i           i`* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website4Don Y
15 Mar 24 i           i `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website3Liz Tuddenham
15 Mar 24 i           i  +- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
15 Mar 24 i           i  `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Carlos E.R.
15 Mar 24 i           `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website12Peter
15 Mar 24 i            +* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website10Carlos E.R.
15 Mar 24 i            i+* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website5Don Y
15 Mar 24 i            ii`* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website4Peter
15 Mar 24 i            ii `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website3Don Y
20 Mar 24 i            ii  `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2Peter
20 Mar 24 i            ii   `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
15 Mar 24 i            i`* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website4Peter
15 Mar 24 i            i +- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
20 Mar 24 i            i `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2Carlos E.R.
20 Mar 24 i            i  `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y
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8 Mar 24 +* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2Martin Brown
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12 Mar 24   `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website5legg
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15 Mar 24     `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website3Don Y
15 Mar 24      `* Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website2bitrex
15 Mar 24       `- Re: Chinese downloads overloading my website1Don Y

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