Re: Favourite Test Equipment

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Sujet : Re: Favourite Test Equipment
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design sci.electronics.repair
Date : 06. Apr 2024, 13:00:51
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On 6/04/2024 3:33 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 05 Apr 2024 07:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
 
On a sunny day (Thu, 4 Apr 2024 11:56:23 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobb <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in <uum4h6$kmdl$1@dont-email.me>:
Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 01-04-2024 09:01, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:41:18 +0100) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <9k7j0jlnbhs8qfg5m17pium0835meean83@4ax.com>:
<snip>

It's also true that you can often make do with what you have. The most
important test instrument is the one between your ears.
>
In the before times, doctors were much better with stethoscopes than they
are now.
>
But I'd sure prefer a cardiologist who could use tomography and ultrasound
over the best stethoscope guy.
Tomography isn't much good in cardiology. The heart moves around during a tomographic scan, and it doesn't do it predictably enough for a stroboscopic scan to work. Somebody tried when I was working at EMI Central Research in the late 1970s, and it didn't work well at all.
Superfast machines may do better but ultrasound is a lot cheaper.

Only useful if you can read the screens, these days they train AI to find cancer in the scans.....
Yes I worked in an Uni hospital too.
How many people die each year because of medical errors?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
Remember Jim Thompson stating 'they are giving me ... but I had a warning I was not supposed to get that'
Few days later he was dead.
 Jim had pancreatic cancer, which is notoriously tricky to diagnose due
to the misleading symptoms it gives rise to.
It's also hard to see - the pancreas is a small organ - and it is impossible to do anything about it. One of our affiliated ultrasound clinicians when I was at at EMI, could find it quickly and cheaply with ultrasound, but early detection didn't save any lives.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Mar 24 * Favourite Test Equipment81Cursitor Doom
31 Mar 24 +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2John Larkin
1 Apr 24 i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment65Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 iii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2legg
2 Apr 24 iiii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 iii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Liz Tuddenham
1 Apr 24 iii +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
2 Apr 24 iii `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
2 May 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Jan Panteltje
2 May 24 iii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
2 May 24 ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8piglet
1 Apr 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
2 Apr 24 iii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
2 Apr 24 iii `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
2 Apr 24 ii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4Jan Panteltje
2 Apr 24 ii `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3John Larkin
5 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 ii   `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
4 Apr 24 i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment46Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
4 Apr 24 i +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
4 Apr 24 i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment44Phil Hobbs
4 Apr 24 i  +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment15bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i  ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment12Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i  i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10john larkin
6 Apr 24 i  i   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment9Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
6 Apr 24 i  i    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8John Larkin
6 Apr 24 i  i     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i  i      +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
7 Apr 24 i  i      +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4Roger Hayter
7 Apr 24 i  i      i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i  i      i +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Phil Hobbs
7 Apr 24 i  i      i `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Ralph Mowery
7 Apr 24 i  i      `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
5 Apr 24 i  +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
5 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment27Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Liz Tuddenham
5 Apr 24 i   i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i   i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i   ii `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii  +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Liz Tuddenham
5 Apr 24 i   ii  i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1john larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii  i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 i   ii  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 i   ii   `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i   i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
5 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i   ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i   i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1bitrex
5 Apr 24 i   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i    +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i    +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7John Larkin
7 Apr 24 i      `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i       +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
8 Apr 24 i       i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1ehsjr
7 Apr 24 i       `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i        `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2John Larkin
8 Apr 24 i         `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1legg
10 Apr 24 `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment12Trevor Wilson
10 Apr 24  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Cursitor Doom
10 Apr 24   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10Trevor Wilson
11 Apr 24    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment9Phil Hobbs
11 Apr 24     +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment5john larkin
12 Apr 24     i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1ehsjr
12 Apr 24     i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Bill Sloman
12 Apr 24     i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Trevor Wilson
12 Apr 24     i  `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
11 Apr 24     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Trevor Wilson
12 Apr 24      `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Dan Green
12 Apr 24       `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman

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