Re: Favourite Test Equipment

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Sujet : Re: Favourite Test Equipment
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design sci.electronics.repair
Date : 12. Apr 2024, 07:32:33
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On 12/04/2024 5:42 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2024-04-11 13:11, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:55:18 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 11/04/2024 3:42 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:40:02 +1000, Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 1/04/2024 4:41 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,
>
I'm starting to get a bit fed up with having my test equipment blow up
just when it's needed. This is the drawback with vintage gear; if it's not used frequently then it can go *bang* the next time you switch it on. It makes for good practice in repairing stuff, but wastes a lot of time which could be better spent doing other things.
I think it's time I modernised my test gear. I was just wondering if
anyone has any recommendations they can share. Is there a particular
piece of test equipment you couldn't live without? Something you're
particularly impressed with? I'd be interested to know so I can
perhaps acquire said item and thereby reduce the number of explosion I experience.
>
**In my 55 years of servicing, I've only blown up one thing: A Micronta DMM, which I connected to a laser power supply. I should not have done it. Clear operator failure. Everything else works just fine. Even my
first multimeter. A Sanwa U-50D my dad gave me on my 14th birthday.
Still works fine. My first DMM. A cheap 'n cheerful SOAR. Works just
fine. My first Fluke meter. A 40 year old Fluke 85. Works fine.  I've had
to clean the switch a few times. Otherwise, no problems. Ditto my other 15 or so meters. Same deal with my 'scopes.
>
I don't know what your problem is. Test equipment, when treated properly lasts a long time.
>
To be fair, these "explosions" are typically capacitors: old, dried
-out electrolytics in test gear that hasn't been used in a long time
go bang when the power's switched on - as do old X2 safety caps. Those
are the chief culprits IME.
>
**Oh, I see. You ignore regular maintenance. That makes sense. I hope no-one buys a car from you.
>
Whereas all you Ozites are 100% rational reasonable polite beings who
are always on top of everything, including predicting the exact date
when an old cap will give up the ghost.
Old electrolytic capacitors tend to give up the ghost when they have been left unpolarised for years, and are then subject to their rated voltage without having been re-formed first.
Predicting that kind of failure isn't difficult.

Silly me for forgetting. ;)
You don't have much to do with clueless newbies.

You don't routinely replace caps in all your test gear? I'm shocked,
shocked.
You don't replace them, you re-form them -  day or so subject to rated voltage applied through a nice big resistor (100k comes to mind).

Sad but true. ;)
>
(My nice little HP6212A power supply must be 50 years old. It's never
been opened and works great.)
 I have a number of the 611x supplies, including the 3 kV one.  Only one has ever actually failed--it was my previous 3 kV, whose transformer started arcing internally, so I tossed it.
 In good equipment (HP & Tek, 1985 or so on), age-related failures are much more common on the outside of the front panel than on the inside. (A problem not unrelated to PEBCAK.) ;)
Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Mar 24 * Favourite Test Equipment81Cursitor Doom
31 Mar 24 +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2John Larkin
1 Apr 24 i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment65Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 iii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2legg
2 Apr 24 iiii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 iii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Liz Tuddenham
1 Apr 24 iii +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
2 Apr 24 iii `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
2 May 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Jan Panteltje
2 May 24 iii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
2 May 24 ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
1 Apr 24 i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8piglet
1 Apr 24 ii+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
2 Apr 24 iii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
2 Apr 24 iii `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
2 Apr 24 ii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4Jan Panteltje
2 Apr 24 ii `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3John Larkin
5 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 ii   `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
4 Apr 24 i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment46Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
4 Apr 24 i +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
4 Apr 24 i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment44Phil Hobbs
4 Apr 24 i  +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment15bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i  ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment12Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i  i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11bitrex
5 Apr 24 i  i  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10john larkin
6 Apr 24 i  i   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment9Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
6 Apr 24 i  i    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8John Larkin
6 Apr 24 i  i     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i  i      +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1John Larkin
7 Apr 24 i  i      +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4Roger Hayter
7 Apr 24 i  i      i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i  i      i +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Phil Hobbs
7 Apr 24 i  i      i `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Ralph Mowery
7 Apr 24 i  i      `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
5 Apr 24 i  +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
5 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment27Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Liz Tuddenham
5 Apr 24 i   i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Jan Panteltje
5 Apr 24 i   i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i   ii `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii  +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Liz Tuddenham
5 Apr 24 i   ii  i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1john larkin
5 Apr 24 i   ii  i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 i   ii  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Apr 24 i   ii   `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Phil Hobbs
5 Apr 24 i   i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
5 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment4John Larkin
5 Apr 24 i   i+* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i   ii`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i   i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1bitrex
5 Apr 24 i   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i    +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i    +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
6 Apr 24 i    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment8Cursitor Doom
6 Apr 24 i     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment7John Larkin
7 Apr 24 i      `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment6Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i       +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Phil Hobbs
8 Apr 24 i       i`- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1ehsjr
7 Apr 24 i       `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Cursitor Doom
7 Apr 24 i        `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2John Larkin
8 Apr 24 i         `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Cursitor Doom
1 Apr 24 +- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1legg
10 Apr 24 `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment12Trevor Wilson
10 Apr 24  `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment11Cursitor Doom
10 Apr 24   `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment10Trevor Wilson
11 Apr 24    `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment9Phil Hobbs
11 Apr 24     +* Re: Favourite Test Equipment5john larkin
12 Apr 24     i+- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1ehsjr
12 Apr 24     i`* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Bill Sloman
12 Apr 24     i `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Trevor Wilson
12 Apr 24     i  `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman
11 Apr 24     `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment3Trevor Wilson
12 Apr 24      `* Re: Favourite Test Equipment2Dan Green
12 Apr 24       `- Re: Favourite Test Equipment1Bill Sloman

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