Re: Predictive failures

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Sujet : Re: Predictive failures
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 17. Apr 2024, 00:21:25
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On 4/16/2024 6:25 AM, Don wrote:
Don Y wrote:
Is there a general rule of thumb for signalling the likelihood of
an "imminent" (for some value of "imminent") hardware failure?
>
I suspect most would involve *relative* changes that would be
suggestive of changing conditions in the components (and not
directly related to environmental influences).
>
So, perhaps, a good strategy is to just "watch" everything and
notice the sorts of changes you "typically" encounter in the hope
that something of greater magnitude would be a harbinger...
 A singular speculative spitball - the capacitive marker:
      In-situ Prognostic Method of Power MOSFET Based on Miller Effect
      ... This paper presents a new in-situ prognosis method for
     MOSFET based on miller effect. According to the theory
     analysis, simulation and experiment results, the miller
     platform voltage is identified as a new degradation
     precursor ...
With the levels of integration we now routinely encounter, this
is likely more of interest to a component vendor than an end designer.
I.e., sell a device that provides this sort of information in a
friendlier form.
Most consumers/users don't care about which component failed.
They just see the DEVICE as having failed.
The Reliability Engineer likely has more of an interest -- but,
only if he gets a chance to examine the failed device (how many
"broken" devices actually get returned to their manufacturer
for such analysis?  Even when covered IN warranty??)
When I see an LCD monitor indicating signs of imminent failure,
I know I have to have a replacement on-hand.  (I keep a shitload).
I happen to know that this particular type of monitor (make/model)
*tends* to fail in one of N (for small values of N) ways.  So,
when I get around to dismantling it and troubleshooting, I know
where to start instead of having to wander through an undocumented
design -- AGAIN.
[I've standardized on three different (sized) models to make this
process pretty simple; I don't want to spend more than a few minutes
*repairing* a monitor!]
If the swamp (evaporative) cooler cycles on, I can monitor the rate
of water consumption compared to "nominal".  Using this, I can infer
the level of calcification of the water valve *in* the cooler.
To some extent, I can compensate for obstruction by running the
blower at a reduced speed (assuming the cooler can meet the needs
of the house in this condition).  With a VFD, I could find the sweet
spot!  :>
So, I can alert the occupants of an impending problem that they might
want to address before the cooler can't meet their needs (when the
pads are insufficiently wetted, you're just pushing hot, dry air into
the house/office/business).
A "dumb" controller just looks at indoor temperature and cycles
the system on/off based on whether or not it is above or below
the desired setpoint (which means it can actually make the house
warmer, the harder it tries to close the loop!)

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Apr 24 * Predictive failures70Don Y
15 Apr 24 +* Re: Predictive failures27Martin Rid
16 Apr 24 i`* Re: Predictive failures26Don Y
16 Apr 24 i `* Re: Predictive failures25Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Predictive failures24Don Y
16 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Predictive failures3Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 i   i+- Re: Predictive failures1Edward Rawde
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16 Apr 24 i   `* Re: Predictive failures20Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 i    `* Re: Predictive failures19Don Y
16 Apr 24 i     +* Re: Predictive failures16Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 i     i`* Re: Predictive failures15Don Y
16 Apr 24 i     i +* Re: Predictive failures13Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 i     i i`* Re: Predictive failures12Don Y
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17 Apr 24 i     `* Re: Predictive failures2Liz Tuddenham
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16 Apr 24 i i+* Re: Predictive failures2Don Y
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17 Apr 24 i `* Re: Predictive failures2Don Y
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16 Apr 24 i+- Re: Predictive failures1Don Y
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17 Apr 24 i   `* Re: Predictive failures2John Larkin
17 Apr 24 i    `- Re: Predictive failures1Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 +* Re: Predictive failures8Don
16 Apr 24 i+* Re: Predictive failures3Edward Rawde
16 Apr 24 ii+- Re: Predictive failures1Don
16 Apr 24 ii`- Re: Predictive failures1Don Y
17 Apr 24 i+* Re: Predictive failures3john larkin
17 Apr 24 ii`* Re: Predictive failures2Don
17 Apr 24 ii `- Re: Predictive failures1Don
17 Apr 24 i`- Re: Predictive failures1Don Y
18 Apr 24 `* Re: Predictive failures7Buzz McCool
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19 Apr 24   `* Re: Predictive failures4boB
19 Apr 24    `* Re: Predictive failures3Don Y
21 Apr 24     `* Re: Predictive failures2boB
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