Re: anti-gravity?

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:31:17 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
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Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 13:35:27 +0100, Martin Brown
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On 21/04/2024 01:11, Phil Hobbs wrote:

John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:31:19 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
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jim whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:19:30 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby wrote:
 

Looking for opinion of persons better educatrd than myself.

I do know how to spell... most of the time. educatded
 

 
.<https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-

that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-
earths-gravity/>

 
Then it should float in mid-air, or accelerate upward. So why does it
need to be tested in space?

 
Vacuum to get rid of corona.
 
Space (orbit really) so tiny forces can be detected and measured. 
 
A steady one G acceleration would be pretty impressive, and would
settle the issue.
 
 

To avoid embarrassment when it doesn't actually work as claimed!

 
There's no gravity gravy train if it gets debunked on the first day.
What?s the use of that?

 
 
Surely it is yet another standard pump and dump models for dodgy fringe
science IPOs much like the LENR scams that have been around for decades.
 
Some genuine engineers who didn't properly understand the physics of
gyroscopes have famously announced their anti gravity machines.
 
Most notably one Eric Laithwaite who once gave the Royal Institution
Xmas Lectures in 1966 on magnetic levitation and linear motors before he
quite literally went off the rails in 1974.
 
<https://www.rigb.org/explore-science/explore/blog/gyroscope-engineer-and-christmas-lectures>
 
Great communicator with the public but not very good at physics.

 
Yeah.  Investment not recommended.
 
As for our asymmetrical capacitor fellow, there has to be some big
errors in the derivation.  I watched part of his lecture, where he did
note that this force endured even when the HV was turned off, and that
it should therefore accelerate continuously.  Which it doesn't,
despite his theory.  He knew that this was a problem, but figured that
it was fixable.  Hmm.
 
That fellow reminds me of the inventor I met, described in the SED
thread "Non-Inertial Navigation Technology" (July 2020).  That company
still exists, and he still toils away.  I don't know where the money
comes from.
 
Joe Gwinn
 

>
And then there was the Dean drive, which worked by rattling a mass back and
forth inside a vehicle.
>
The tabletop demo went perfectly. ;)

Yeah, I remember that story.  I bet that if one simply suspended the
dean drive assembly from a rafter using a long spring, no net motion
would be seen.

I will say that with Non-Inertial Navigation, after talking with the
inventor on a video conference, my instinct was that he was sincere
but misguided. 

After watching the asymmetrical capacitor video presentation, my
instinct is that the inventor is a complete huckster, and does know
better, as I watched him deftly include everything likely to impress
the relevant audience, up to and including perpetual motion, free
energy, and alien technology.  But no warp drive.

As for Dean, I have no idea, but tend towards pure huckster.

Joe Gwinn