Re: power supply idea

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Sujet : Re: power supply idea
De : jjSNIPlarkin (at) *nospam* highNONOlandtechnology.com (John Larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 22. Apr 2024, 18:04:21
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:32:00 +0100, John R Walliker
<jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:

On 22/04/2024 16:09, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 22/04/2024 10:57 pm, Don wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
>
If one had, say, a 48 volt power bus, you could hang a half-bridge
switcher to ground, and a lowpass filter out. If the drive has duty
cycle n, the output voltage is 48*n. So we have a programmable power
supply with no feedback, which will be stable into any load.
>
The load regulation will be mediocre, but we could almost sell it
as-is.
>
So now, sense the output voltage and compute the error against the
target, run through a slowish integrator, and tweak the PWM to get
zero output voltage error. Gross transient response is basically the
response of the output filter, with some modest drool from the
integrator.
>
We can constrain the influence range of the integrator, just enough to
give the regulation that we need. That limits output swing in case the
feedback is wrong, as one could get from a botched remote sense
connection.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2fysyvkl4eim7vujhaobh/FFINT_PS_1.jpg?rlkey=rug6yi3cgemi9vvbz8apgboqi&raw=1
>
Is your "spread spectrum" dodad supposed to mitigate EMI?
 
It smears it out over a range of frequencies, and makes it look better
on the screen - no big frequency spikes, but many more smaller ones.
 
"Mitigate" depends on how the hash messes up your particular system.
 
>
Yes, but the only one that most designers care about is the EMC
receiver at the compliance test lab.
>
John

It won't reduce ripple or fast switching spikes, which is what my
users might care about. It would improve the peaks on a spectum
analyzer, which is what regulators (government regulators, not voltage
regulators) care about.

Actually, the DC power that one sees on an airplane or in a car is
nastier than anything I can reasonably make, even on purpose. So my
concern is stability and not blowing anything up.





Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Apr 24 * power supply idea19John Larkin
22 Apr 24 +* Re: power supply idea9piglet
22 Apr 24 i`* Re: power supply idea8John Larkin
22 Apr 24 i `* Re: power supply idea7Don
22 Apr 24 i  `* Re: power supply idea6John Larkin
23 Apr 24 i   `* Re: power supply idea5Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
23 Apr 24 i    `* Re: power supply idea4Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 i     `* Re: power supply idea3john larkin
24 Apr 24 i      +- Re: power supply idea1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 i      `- Re: power supply idea1Lasse Langwadt
22 Apr 24 +* Re: power supply idea4Liz Tuddenham
22 Apr 24 i`* Re: power supply idea3John Larkin
22 Apr 24 i `* Re: power supply idea2Liz Tuddenham
22 Apr 24 i  `- Re: power supply idea1John Larkin
22 Apr 24 `* Re: power supply idea5Don
22 Apr 24  +* Re: power supply idea3Bill Sloman
22 Apr 24  i`* Re: power supply idea2John R Walliker
22 Apr 24  i `- Re: power supply idea1John Larkin
22 Apr 24  `- Re: power supply idea1John Larkin

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