Re: CCFL transformer

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Sujet : Re: CCFL transformer
De : klauskvik (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 25. Apr 2024, 22:25:07
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On 25-04-2024 17:36, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 26/04/2024 12:52 am, legg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 01:57:36 +0200, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
<klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hi
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I need a low distributed capacitance winding transformer, for a HV
stepup function (3.5kV)
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I am zeroing in on similar concept as CCFL transformers with
sectionalized bobbin.
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For example:
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https://www.coilcraft.com/en-us/products/transformers/power-transformers/ccfl-transformers/fl/
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Possibly using Triple Insulated Wire to create some distance between the
individual turns.
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Not many sells CCFLs these days.
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Guess I will keep it alive....
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Regards
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Klaus
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Stress between turns is limited by v/n limit of core. It's layer
stress and section stress that you have to deal with.
That's what the multisection bobbin and pancake windings do.
 They also reduce the parallel capacitance of the windings, and give you are higher resonant frequency for the transformer as a whole.
 "Layer stress" and "section stress" aren't specific electronic engineering terms, and the "v/n" limit of the core is pretty vague.
 There is a volt per turn limit imposed by the magnetic field that saturates the core - but at higher frequencies you can tolerate more volts per turn before the core saturates - it's a linear function of switching frequency, up to the point where resistance around the current loops inside the core lets enough current circulate to heat the core above its Curie temperature.
 
If the CCFL transformer will allow only 1600V, imagine the
precautions required for 3x that stress. I'm not sure you
can avoid vacuum impregnation / potting in anything 'small'.
 Imagination does seem to be what's being applied here.
 There's a least one truly horrible 1969 text book on transformer design
 https://www.amazon.com.au/Soft-Ferrites-Applications-C-Snelling/dp/0408027606
 and it took me years to realise quite how confusing it was.
 
I have that book. Only found it useful a couple of times...

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Apr 24 * CCFL transformer46Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer14John Larkin
24 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer12Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii+* Re: CCFL transformer8Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 iii+- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
27 Apr 24 iii`* Re: CCFL transformer6Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
27 Apr 24 iii +* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
27 Apr 24 iii i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii `* Re: CCFL transformer3Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii  `* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
28 Apr 24 iii   `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii`* Re: CCFL transformer3Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii +- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 ii `- Re: CCFL transformer1John Larkin
24 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Arie de Muijnck
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer9legg
24 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer7John Larkin
25 Apr 24 ii`* Re: CCFL transformer6Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii `* Re: CCFL transformer5John Larkin
25 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: CCFL transformer4Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii   `* Re: CCFL transformer3John Larkin
26 Apr 24 ii    `* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii     `- Re: CCFL transformer1John Larkin
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer2Joe Gwinn
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +- Re: CCFL transformer1Martin Rid
25 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer17legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer11Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii+- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii+* Re: CCFL transformer8legg
26 Apr 24 iii+* Re: CCFL transformer6Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iiii`* Re: CCFL transformer5legg
27 Apr 24 iiii +* Re: CCFL transformer3Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
28 Apr 24 iiii i`* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
28 Apr 24 iiii i `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
28 Apr 24 iiii `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
26 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
1 May 24 `* Re: CCFL transformer2Mike Monett VE3BTI
2 May 24  `- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund

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