Re: CCFL transformer

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Sujet : Re: CCFL transformer
De : legg (at) *nospam* nospam.magma.ca (legg)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 26. Apr 2024, 16:57:24
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:36:06 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

On 26/04/2024 12:52 am, legg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 01:57:36 +0200, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
<klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
Hi
>
I need a low distributed capacitance winding transformer, for a HV
stepup function (3.5kV)
>
I am zeroing in on similar concept as CCFL transformers with
sectionalized bobbin.
>
For example:
>
https://www.coilcraft.com/en-us/products/transformers/power-transformers/ccfl-transformers/fl/
>
Possibly using Triple Insulated Wire to create some distance between the
individual turns.
>
Not many sells CCFLs these days.
>
Guess I will keep it alive....
>
Regards
>
Klaus
 
Stress between turns is limited by v/n limit of core. It's layer
stress and section stress that you have to deal with.
That's what the multisection bobbin and pancake windings do.
>
They also reduce the parallel capacitance of the windings, and give you
are higher resonant frequency for the transformer as a whole.
>
"Layer stress" and "section stress" aren't specific electronic
engineering terms, and the "v/n" limit of the core is pretty vague.
>
There is a volt per turn limit imposed by the magnetic field that
saturates the core - but at higher frequencies you can tolerate more
volts per turn before the core saturates - it's a linear function of
switching frequency, up to the point where resistance around the current
loops inside the core lets enough current circulate to heat the core
above its Curie temperature.
>
If the CCFL transformer will allow only 1600V, imagine the
precautions required for 3x that stress. I'm not sure you
can avoid vacuum impregnation / potting in anything 'small'.
>
Imagination does seem to be what's being applied here.
>
There's a least one truly horrible 1969 text book on transformer design
>
https://www.amazon.com.au/Soft-Ferrites-Applications-C-Snelling/dp/0408027606
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and it took me years to realise quite how confusing it was.

https://archive.org/details/SNELLING__SOFT-FERRITES__1969/page/n13/mode/2up?view=theater

RL

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Apr 24 * CCFL transformer46Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer14John Larkin
24 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer12Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii+* Re: CCFL transformer8Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 iii+- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
27 Apr 24 iii`* Re: CCFL transformer6Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
27 Apr 24 iii +* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
27 Apr 24 iii i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii `* Re: CCFL transformer3Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii  `* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
28 Apr 24 iii   `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii`* Re: CCFL transformer3Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii +- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 ii `- Re: CCFL transformer1John Larkin
24 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Arie de Muijnck
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer9legg
24 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer7John Larkin
25 Apr 24 ii`* Re: CCFL transformer6Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii `* Re: CCFL transformer5John Larkin
25 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: CCFL transformer4Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
25 Apr 24 ii   `* Re: CCFL transformer3John Larkin
26 Apr 24 ii    `* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii     `- Re: CCFL transformer1John Larkin
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer2Joe Gwinn
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
24 Apr 24 +- Re: CCFL transformer1Martin Rid
25 Apr 24 +* Re: CCFL transformer17legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer11Bill Sloman
25 Apr 24 ii+- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii+* Re: CCFL transformer8legg
26 Apr 24 iii+* Re: CCFL transformer6Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iiii`* Re: CCFL transformer5legg
27 Apr 24 iiii +* Re: CCFL transformer3Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
28 Apr 24 iiii i`* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
28 Apr 24 iiii i `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
28 Apr 24 iiii `- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
27 Apr 24 iii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: CCFL transformer2John Larkin
26 Apr 24 ii`- Re: CCFL transformer1Bill Sloman
26 Apr 24 i`- Re: CCFL transformer1legg
1 May 24 `* Re: CCFL transformer2Mike Monett VE3BTI
2 May 24  `- Re: CCFL transformer1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund

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