Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production

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Sujet : Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production
De : albert (at) *nospam* spenarnc.xs4all.nl
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 27. Apr 2024, 12:39:30
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In article <v09p38$1uqd3$2@dont-email.me>,
Don Y  <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 4/23/2024 5:08 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
It must be trivial to get a VHDL/Verilog model and make your own by now.
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The problem with all the early/simple/trivial processors is getting
the rest of the system to run as fast as the core can.  E.g., running
a core at ~200MHz and expecting the same bus timing means < 5ns memory.
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(for a Z80, that would be ~10ns as the bus timing is inherently slower)
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The better option is to embed the core *in* a design to give you
the advantages of a programmable sequencer (instead of "junk logic")
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The 6809 was my preference but took a few more years.

Motorola was much better in this respect. Peripherals are accessed
by handshake. So you could  put a longer delay iff the peripherals
are slow.

I remember spending 2000 guilders in around 1980 for 16 K ram
for my Z80.
Just to discover that code in this ram couldn't run, because the
Z80 was too slow. Only useable for data.

I managed to factor numbers of up till hundreds of digits,
using 1K of ram and 1K of videoram (that contained the digits)
before this extension. No restrictions on the size of the
factors! (Patience required.).

Groetjes Albert

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Apr 24 * Zilog stopping Z80 production31Jan Panteltje
23 Apr 24 +* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production13Dan Purgert
23 Apr 24 i+- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1TTman
23 Apr 24 i`* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production11Jan Panteltje
23 Apr 24 i `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production10Peter Heitzer
23 Apr 24 i  +- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don
23 Apr 24 i  +* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production7Don Y
23 Apr 24 i  i`* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production6boB
24 Apr 24 i  i `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production5Don Y
24 Apr 24 i  i  `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production4boB
25 Apr 24 i  i   `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production3Don Y
25 Apr 24 i  i    `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production2boB
25 Apr 24 i  i     `- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y
24 Apr 24 i  `- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Jan Panteltje
24 Apr 24 `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production17Edward Rawde
24 Apr 24  `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production16Don Y
24 Apr 24   +* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production10Lasse Langwadt
24 Apr 24   i+* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production8boB
25 Apr 24   ii+* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production6Lasse Langwadt
25 Apr 24   iii+- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y
25 Apr 24   iii`* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production4Edward Rawde
25 Apr 24   iii `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production3Don Y
25 Apr 24   iii  `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production2Edward Rawde
25 Apr 24   iii   `- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y
25 Apr 24   ii`- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y
25 Apr 24   i`- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y
27 Apr 24   `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production5albert
27 Apr 24    +* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production2Gerhard Hoffmann
27 Apr 24    i`- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Jan Panteltje
27 Apr 24    `* Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production2Don Y
14 May 24     `- Re: Zilog stopping Z80 production1Don Y

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