Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades

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Sujet : Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 07. May 2024, 17:44:10
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On 8/05/2024 12:41 am, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2024 14:35:12 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
 
On 07/05/2024 06:06, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades
   https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240429103045.htm
    The 'thorium transition', which has been sought after for decades,
    has now been excited for the first time with lasers.
    This paves the way for revolutionary high precision technologies, including nuclear clocks
>
I wonder what the Q value for stimulated nuclear emission is?
 "the correct energy of the thorium transition was hit exactly, the
thorium nuclei delivered a clear signal for the first time. "
 I wonder what that signal was.
Presumably the thorium nucleus absorbs the photon, then remits it when it decays back to the ground state, presumably not in the original direction.
The life-time of the excited state is 630sec when the thorium atoms are presented in a CaF2 crystal. It you hit the crystal briefly with precisely the right frequency, then observed a slowly decaying fluorescent signal at the same wavelength, you'd have a clear enough signal (though not all that much of it).
In fact they gradually stepped up the exciting beam wavelength from 148.2 to 150.3 nm.,and observed a fluorescence peak at around 148.38 nm.
The observed central wavelength of the nuclear transition amounted to 148.3821(5) nm, equivalent to a transition energy of 8.35574(3) eV, which was consistent with the 1 σ-uncertainty of the value reported in radiative-decay experiments but with 800-fold improved precision.
The implication is that their excitation wavelength wasn't all that precise either and will need to be made even more precise for nuclear clock work.
I wonder if they could use it to get Doppler shifts from continental drift?
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 May 24 * OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades24Jan Panteltje
7 May 24 `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades23Martin Brown
7 May 24  +* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades19Jeroen Belleman
7 May 24  i`* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades18Joe Gwinn
8 May 24  i `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades17John Larkin
8 May 24  i  +- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Bill Sloman
8 May 24  i  `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades15Jeroen Belleman
8 May 24  i   `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades14Martin Brown
8 May 24  i    +- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Jeroen Belleman
8 May 24  i    +- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1John Larkin
8 May 24  i    `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades11Phil Hobbs
8 May 24  i     +* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades2Joe Gwinn
8 May 24  i     i`- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Gerhard Hoffmann
8 May 24  i     +* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades3John Larkin
8 May 24  i     i+- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Jeroen Belleman
9 May 24  i     i`- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Phil Hobbs
8 May 24  i     `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades5Joe Gwinn
9 May 24  i      `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades4Phil Hobbs
9 May 24  i       `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades3Joe Gwinn
9 May 24  i        +- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Phil Hobbs
9 May 24  i        `- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Joe Gwinn
7 May 24  `* Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades3John Larkin
7 May 24   +- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Bill Sloman
7 May 24   `- Re: OT: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: a breakthrough after decades1Jeroen Belleman

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