Re: smart people doing stupid things

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De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Edward Rawde)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 18. May 2024, 05:46:06
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"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message
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On 5/17/2024 7:11 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message
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On 5/17/2024 1:43 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
Not sure how he managed to say master debaters that many times while
seemingly keeping a straight face but it reminds me of this:
https://www.learningmethods.com/downloads/pdf/james.alcock--the.belief.engine.pdf
>
One thing which bothers me about AI is that if it's like us but way
more
intelligent than us then...
>
The 'I' in AI doesn't refer to the same sense of "intelligence" that
you are imagining.
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Strange that you could know what I was imagining.
>
People are invariably mislead by thinking that there is "intelligence"
involved in the technology.  If there is intelligence, then there should
be *reason*, right?  If there is reason, then I should be able to inquire
as to what, specifically, those reasons were for any "decision"/choice
that is made.

You haven't met some of the managers I've worked for.

>
...
>
Where it will be in 10 years is impossible to predict.

I agree.

But, as the genie is
out of the bottle, there is nothing to stop others from using/abusing it
in ways that we might not consider palatable!  (Do you really think an
adversary will follow YOUR rules for its use -- if they see a way to
achieve gains?)
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The risk from AI is that it makes decisions without being able to
articulate
a "reason" in a verifiable form.

I know/have known plenty of people who can do that.

And, then marches on -- without our
ever "blessing" it's conclusion(s).  There is no understanding; no
REASONING;
it's all just pattern observation/matching.
...



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17 May 24 * smart people doing stupid things46John Larkin
17 May 24 +* Re: smart people doing stupid things8Martin Rid
17 May 24 i`* Re: smart people doing stupid things7John Larkin
17 May 24 i +* Re: smart people doing stupid things3Joe Gwinn
17 May 24 i i`* Re: smart people doing stupid things2John Larkin
18 May 24 i i `- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Joe Gwinn
17 May 24 i `* Re: smart people doing stupid things3Martin Rid
18 May 24 i  +- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Joe Gwinn
18 May 24 i  `- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Don Y
17 May 24 +* Re: smart people doing stupid things36Edward Rawde
17 May 24 i+- Re: smart people doing stupid things1John Larkin
18 May 24 i`* Re: smart people doing stupid things34Don Y
18 May 24 i +- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Don Y
18 May 24 i `* Re: smart people doing stupid things32Edward Rawde
18 May 24 i  `* Re: smart people doing stupid things31Don Y
18 May 24 i   `* Re: smart people doing stupid things30Edward Rawde
18 May 24 i    +* Re: smart people doing stupid things15Edward Rawde
18 May 24 i    i`* Re: smart people doing stupid things14Don Y
18 May 24 i    i `* Re: smart people doing stupid things13Edward Rawde
18 May 24 i    i  `* Re: smart people doing stupid things12Don Y
19 May 24 i    i   `* Re: smart people doing stupid things11Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i    i    `* Re: smart people doing stupid things10Don Y
19 May 24 i    i     `* Re: smart people doing stupid things9Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i    i      `* Re: smart people doing stupid things8Don Y
19 May 24 i    i       `* Re: smart people doing stupid things7Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i    i        `* Re: smart people doing stupid things6Don Y
19 May 24 i    i         `* Re: smart people doing stupid things5Edward Rawde
20 May 24 i    i          `* Re: smart people doing stupid things4Don Y
20 May 24 i    i           `* Re: smart people doing stupid things3Edward Rawde
20 May 24 i    i            `* Re: smart people doing stupid things2Don Y
20 May 24 i    i             `- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Edward Rawde
18 May 24 i    `* Re: smart people doing stupid things14Don Y
18 May 24 i     `* Re: smart people doing stupid things13Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i      `* Re: smart people doing stupid things12Don Y
19 May 24 i       `* Re: smart people doing stupid things11Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i        `* Re: smart people doing stupid things10Don Y
19 May 24 i         `* Re: smart people doing stupid things9Edward Rawde
19 May 24 i          `* Re: smart people doing stupid things8Don Y
19 May 24 i           `* Re: smart people doing stupid things7Edward Rawde
20 May 24 i            `* Re: smart people doing stupid things6Don Y
20 May 24 i             `* Re: smart people doing stupid things5Edward Rawde
20 May 24 i              `* Re: smart people doing stupid things4Don Y
20 May 24 i               `* Re: smart people doing stupid things3Edward Rawde
20 May 24 i                `* Re: smart people doing stupid things2Don Y
20 May 24 i                 `- Re: smart people doing stupid things1Edward Rawde
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