Re: smart people doing stupid things

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Sujet : Re: smart people doing stupid things
De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Edward Rawde)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 19. May 2024, 17:22:19
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"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message
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On 5/18/2024 8:15 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message
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On 5/18/2024 7:34 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>
So is it ok if I take a step back here and ask whether you think that
AI/AGI
has some inherent limitation which means it will never match human
intelligence?
Or do you think that AI/AGI will, at some future time, match human
intelligence?
>
That depends on the qualities and capabilities that you lump into
"HUMAN intelligence".  Curiosity?  Creativity?  Imagination?  One
can be exceedingly intelligent and of no more "value" than an
encyclopedia!

Brains appear to have processing and storage spread thoughout the brain.
There is no separate information processing and separate storage.
Some brain areas may be more processing than storage (cerebellum?)
So AI should be trainable to be of whatever value is wanted which no doubt
will be maximum value.

>
I am CERTAIN that AIs will be able to process the information available
to "human practitioners" (in whatever field) at least to the level of
competence that they (humans) can, presently.  It's just a question of
resources thrown at the AI and the time available for it to "respond".
>
But, this ignores the fact that humans are more resourceful at probing
the environment than AIs ("No thumbs!") without mechanical assistance.

So AI will get humans to do it. At least initially.

Could (would?) an AI decide to explore space?

Definitely. And it would not be constrained by the need for a specific
temperature, air composition and pressure, and g.

 Or, the ocean depths?
Or, the rain forest?  Or, would its idea of exploration merely be a
visit to another net-neighbor??

Its idea would be what it had become due to its training, just like a
huiman.

>
Would (could) it consider human needs as important?

Doepends on whether it is trained to.
It may in some sense keep us as pets.

 (see previous post)
How would it be motivated?

Same way humans are.

 >Would it attempt to think beyond it's
limitations (something humans always do)?  Or, would those be immutable
in its understanding of the world?
>
I don't mean to suggest that AI will become human, or will need to become
human. It will more likely have its own agenda.
>
Where will that agenda come from?

No-one knows exactly. That'y why "One thing which bothers me about AI is
that if it's like us but way more
intelligent than us then..."

Maybe we need Gort (The day the earth stood still.) but the problem with
that is will Gort be an American, Chinese, Russian, Other, or none of the
above.
My preference would be none of the above.

Will it inherit it from watching B-grade
sci-fi movies?  "Let there be light!"
>
 



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19 May 24 i          `* Re: smart people doing stupid things8Don Y
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