Re: CO2 Funny

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Sujet : Re: CO2 Funny
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 23. May 2024, 13:41:16
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On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
 
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
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<snip>
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Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
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Spoken like a true liberal.
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When things don't go your way... start name calling.
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Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
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Indeed.
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9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
  That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.

Please post a schematic or a Spice sim of something that you have
designed. That would be interesting to discuss.
And rip off. John won't discuss anything - he doesn't seem to know how.

Electronic design requires some native talent and education and
experience, but is in the end gated by emotions.
"Gated"? If you are depressed you won't design anything, but there are lots of different motivations for slinging stuff together and getting it right. If production ends up with something they can put together and the sales team ends up with something they can sell, the business of motivating the designers can be left to them.
Since the salesmen mostly want what they have already got - but smaller, faster and cheaper, they aren't really to be trusted with the job.
One of my bigger and more interesting projects got messed up because the boss, who also sold the product, was intent on claiming a 10psec timing granularity for the timing system in a machine whose narrowest pulse was 500psec wide (we had hopes of getting that down to 100psec, but 10psec was a decade or so away). 100K ECL limited us to no better than 20psec, and ECLinPS was not around at that stage, so we bought into Gigabit Logic's GaAs parts - the project crashed shortly before Gigabit realised that they were never going to the yield high enough to make money.
It wasn't the only problem his unrealistic ambitions created.

Engineering schools don't seem to have courses about that, and they should. In fact, the
academic establishment actively avoids addressing this dominant issue.
They'd have to import talent from the pyschology department to attend to that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morton_(cognitive_scientist)
wrote a neat paper on human factors in design, but he an I could never work out which one was the one I'd read and liked.

One classic book was The Psychology of Computer Programming by Gerald
Weinberg. It deals with essentially the same issues, smart people
behaving badly.
That may have been what John Larkin saw in it.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 24 * CO2 Funny68john larkin
21 May 24 +* Re: CO2 Funny2Bill Sloman
21 May 24 i`- Re: CO2 Funny1John R Walliker
21 May 24 `* Re: CO2 Funny65chrisq
21 May 24  `* Re: CO2 Funny64john larkin
21 May 24   +* Re: CO2 Funny62john larkin
21 May 24   i+* Re: CO2 Funny60john larkin
22 May 24   ii+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   ii+* Re: CO2 Funny48jim whitby
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny2jim whitby
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny42john larkin
22 May 24   iiii+* Re: CO2 Funny40john larkin
23 May 24   iiiii+* Re: CO2 Funny17Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny16Edward Rawde
26 May 24   iiiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny14Bill Sloman
26 May 24   iiiiii i`* Re: CO2 Funny13Edward Rawde
26 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
27 May 24   iiiiii i i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Jeroen Belleman
27 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny7Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i i`* Re: CO2 Funny6john larkin
27 May 24   iiiiii i i `* Re: CO2 Funny5Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i i  `* Re: CO2 Funny4john larkin
28 May 24   iiiiii i i   `* Re: CO2 Funny3Bill Sloman
28 May 24   iiiiii i i    `* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
28 May 24   iiiiii i i     `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiiii i `* Re: CO2 Funny3Cursitor Doom
28 May 24   iiiiii i  `* Re: CO2 Funny2Bill Sloman
30 May 24   iiiiii i   `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
26 May 24   iiiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
23 May 24   iiiii+* Re: CO2 Funny16john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
24 May 24   iiiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny14john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny10Joe Gwinn
24 May 24   iiiiii i`* Re: CO2 Funny9john larkin
24 May 24   iiiiii i +* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii i i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii i `* Re: CO2 Funny6Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i  `* Re: CO2 Funny5john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii i   `* Re: CO2 Funny4Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i    `* Re: CO2 Funny3Mike Monett VE3BTI
25 May 24   iiiiii i     +- Re: CO2 Funny1Phil Hobbs
25 May 24   iiiiii i     `- Re: CO2 Funny1Jeroen Belleman
24 May 24   iiiiii +- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
25 May 24   iiiiii +- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   iiiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iiiii+- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
26 May 24   iiiii`* Re: CO2 Funny5Cursitor Doom
26 May 24   iiiii +* Re: CO2 Funny3john larkin
27 May 24   iiiii i+- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
27 May 24   iiiii i`- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
27 May 24   iiiii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   iii+* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
23 May 24   iiii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   iii`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   ii`* Re: CO2 Funny10Jeroen Belleman
22 May 24   ii `* Re: CO2 Funny9john larkin
22 May 24   ii  +* Re: CO2 Funny6john larkin
22 May 24   ii  i+- Re: CO2 Funny1john larkin
23 May 24   ii  i+* Re: CO2 Funny3chrisq
23 May 24   ii  ii`* Re: CO2 Funny2john larkin
23 May 24   ii  ii `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   ii  i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
23 May 24   ii  +- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
25 May 24   ii  `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   i`- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman
22 May 24   `- Re: CO2 Funny1Bill Sloman

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