Re: AD5791

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De : cd999666 (at) *nospam* notformail.com (Cursitor Doom)
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Date : 06. Jun 2024, 01:15:30
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On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 14:32:15 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:56:18 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
 
On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 12:50:59 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:56:36 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 21:53:13 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>
On 6/4/24 19:48, john larkin wrote:
https://www.analog.com/en/products/ad5791.html
 
That's an amazing part. 20 bit DAC with 1 PPM accuracy and 0.05 PPM
per degree C tempco.
 
My main gripe is its 3.4K output impedance, which makes a lot of
Johnson noise. I suppose I could run a bunch in parallel.
 
 
But you can power the chip from +/-16V and the LSB can be in the 25uV
ballpark. The Johnson noise of 7.5nV/rtHz doesn't seem so bad then,
does it?
>
Jeroen Belleman
>
That helps some. +-14v is about the limit on the references. We'd have
to divide down to get our +-10v range back, and that would need some
crazy stable resistors.
>
Looks like the other way to get the noise down would be to parallel a
number of DACs. Times 8 channels! Ballpark $100 per DAC, which is
actually feasible.
>
It will of course need crazy-low-noise hyper-stable references.
>
I wonder how ADI tests these parts. I can't buy a 1 PPM accurate DVM.
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Aren't 6.5-digit DMMs exactly 1PPM?
>
Joe Gwinn
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I think the best I've seen is something like 4 PPM.  For north of $14K.
 
It might be easier to buy a 1ppm voltage reference and calibrate against
that.
 
.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_reference>
 
For a product instance:
 
.<https://voltagestandard.com/001%25-10v-reference>  costs $140.
 
Joe Gwinn

Or if you're short of funds but feeling lucky:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386121438204?
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Jun 24 * AD579126john larkin
4 Jun 24 +* Re: AD579115Jeroen Belleman
4 Jun 24 i`* Re: AD579114john larkin
5 Jun 24 i +* Re: AD57918Phil Hobbs
5 Jun 24 i i+- Re: AD57911Phil Hobbs
5 Jun 24 i i`* Re: AD57916john larkin
5 Jun 24 i i +* Re: AD57913Phil Hobbs
5 Jun 24 i i i+- Re: AD57911john larkin
5 Jun 24 i i i`- Re: AD57911Phil Hobbs
5 Jun 24 i i `* Re: AD57912Steve Goldstein
5 Jun 24 i i  `- Re: AD57911john larkin
5 Jun 24 i +- Re: AD57911Bill Sloman
5 Jun 24 i `* Re: AD57914Joe Gwinn
5 Jun 24 i  `* Re: AD57913john larkin
5 Jun 24 i   `* Re: AD57912Joe Gwinn
6 Jun 24 i    `- Re: AD57911Cursitor Doom
6 Jun 24 `* Re: AD579110boB
6 Jun 24  `* Re: AD57919john larkin
7 Jun 24   +* Re: AD57917Phil Hobbs
7 Jun 24   i`* Re: AD57916john larkin
7 Jun 24   i `* Re: AD57915Phil Hobbs
7 Jun 24   i  +- Re: AD57911john larkin
8 Jun 24   i  `* Re: AD57913boB
8 Jun 24   i   `* Re: AD57912Steve Goldstein
9 Jun 24   i    `- Re: AD57911boB
7 Jun 24   `- Re: AD57911Bill Sloman

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