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On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:25:36 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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>"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com...>On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:02:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>
>On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:>"Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...>On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:>On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman>
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:>
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Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they are
heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for
Hamas, killing is always win-win.
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Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell.
Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
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Jeroen Belleman
Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of
consciousness, you can't know.
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Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would
morality and justice come from?
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One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about proper
behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with,
possibly, genetic components.
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In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists.
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Better cooks too.
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Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
many people never get over it.
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Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit.
Religion never even comes into it.
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I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
seen quite a few who were real bastards.
That's pretty much my experience too.
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Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative, who has
no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think women shouldn't
vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't like the fuckers."
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I have lots of relatives in Mass and have spent many months of my life
in NYC and Vermont
Would I be correct in thinking that you've never been outside the USA except perhaps for a short vacation?
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I have spend a few months in France and a month working in Moscow.
Some weeks working in England, in Oxford, and a few weeks vacatining
in Ireland. Some time in Hamamatsu.
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I guess Alaska and Hawaii don't count.
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I have never encountered the sort of nastiness that other people seem
to have. Most people are friendly and decent.
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