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On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 19:30:11 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 6/8/24 16:45, john larkin wrote:DNA and RNA and other things aren't flat linear molecules as theOn Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:54:42 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor DoomYou have referred to quantum effects in the brain many times. In as far
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 10:43:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>On 6/8/24 01:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:>On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 23:57:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote:>
>On 6/7/24 23:11, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:>Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:>
>On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:>
[...]>Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor
Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because
they are heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed
martyrs. So for Hamas, killing is always win-win.
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hell.
Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
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Jeroen Belleman
Learn how to do soul travel. It is the most important thing to do
this lifetime. It will give you absolute proof there is life past
this one,
and that you are immortal.
I don't know what soul travel is, but I'm sure there is no
afterlife, just as there was no forelife. There is no soul. My
existence is the result of an uninterrupted sequence of incredibly
improbable events, going back billions of years into the past, and
I will cease to exist,
never to come back,
when some essential part of my body fails.
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While I'm certainly not looking forward to dying, I'm not afraid
of being dead. The need to believe in an afterlife is just another
of those weird religious ideas.
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Jeroen Belleman
Well, I'm not religious at all but am convinced there's an
after-life. And that's not just so I can feel all warm and fuzzy. I
actually find the prospect deeply concerning. I'd much rather be
like you in outlook!
How did you come to be convinced of the existence of an afterlife,
and what kind of experience do you expect to have?
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Jeroen Belleman
I'm afraid that's *way* too big and off-topic a subject for expansion
on this forum!
Designing electronics has obviously suggestions of quantum
consciousness, and even Einstein thought that QM was spooky.
Don't give up on miracles quite yet.
as the brain is a chemical machine, and that chemistry is basically a
manifestation of quantum mechanics, I agree. In practice, QM is just a
level too deep in the abstraction stack. Somehow I believe that that is
not how you see it. Would you elaborate?
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cartoons suggest. They are twisted and tangled into writhing balls. So
any sequence gets continuously and randomly rubbed against the rest of
the string. That's a quantum cross-correlation machine.
Much of technology, electronics in particular, is a miracle,
though not in the mystical or religious sense.
I like the Barrie Gilbert essay, "Where do little circuits come from?"
They are all out there in the infinite solution space, and it's hard to
explore an infinite space serially.
There's nothing mystical about a universe that obviously works.
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