Re: Quantum mystics

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De : '''newspam''' (at) *nospam* nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
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Date : 10. Jun 2024, 19:28:06
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On 10/06/2024 17:25, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 6/10/24 16:20, john larkin wrote:

But photon entanglement can't be explained, or even thought about, in
classic-physics terms.
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Nor can single-photon interferance.
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Just accept and enjoy it.
 That's false! Entanglement and interference can easily be understood
in terms of waves and quantized detectors. It's the QM view, with its
imagined photon particle flying everywhere at once that is confusing.
But that world view is backed up by experiments.
Particles can behave as waves and waves can behave as particles depending on the experiment. The particle isn't "everywhere at once" either it is trapped in a spherical shell radius vt expanding around its point of origin with the amplitude of the wavefunction representing the chances of finding it at any particular position.

What size do you imagine a photon to be?
Depends on the wavelength of the photon but to have a well defined frequency the amplitude envelope has to be a good few wavelengths long and to agree with causality the leading edge must be zero until sufficient time has passed from its emission to reaching its target. I expect that there is a canonical shape for a photon amplitude envelope for given df/f but I don't know what it is or if it has ever been computed.
This aspect of size of a photon always seemed very awkward to me when working at 21cm neutral hydrogen and measuring what are essentially tiny correlations in narrowband random noise from extremely remote mostly point sources over a large number of different antenna pairs. What is pretty clear is that the correlations of such signals are good enough even on planetary dimensions for VLBI to work!
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Martin Brown

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jun 24 * Quantum mystics44Jeroen Belleman
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1bitrex
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Quantum mystics26john larkin
9 Jun 24 i`* Re: Quantum mystics25Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics5john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i i `* Re: Quantum mystics3Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i i  `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24 i i   `- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics18bitrex
10 Jun 24 i i+- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i+* Re: Quantum mystics15Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i ii+* Re: Quantum mystics13Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i iii+* Re: Quantum mystics6john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iiii`* Re: Quantum mystics5Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iiii `* Re: Quantum mystics4Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iiii  +* Re: Quantum mystics2john larkin
11 Jun 24 i iiii  i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
11 Jun 24 i iiii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i iii `* Re: Quantum mystics3john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iii  +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i iii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i ii`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 `* Re: Quantum mystics15Jan Panteltje
10 Jun 24  `* Re: Quantum mystics14john larkin
10 Jun 24   `* Re: Quantum mystics13Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    +* Re: Quantum mystics8Martin Brown
10 Jun 24    i`* Re: Quantum mystics7Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i `* Re: Quantum mystics5Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    i  `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
11 Jun 24    i   +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
11 Jun 24    i   `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24    i    `- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24    `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
10 Jun 24     `* Re: Quantum mystics3Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24      `* Re: Quantum mystics2john larkin
10 Jun 24       `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman

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