Re: Quantum mystics

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Sujet : Re: Quantum mystics
De : jl (at) *nospam* 650pot.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Jun 2024, 23:24:39
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:15:51 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

On 6/10/24 20:26, Phil Hobbs wrote:
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[Snip...]
>
 
Sticking with the semiclassical picture of photodetection is good, because
it avoids almost all of the blunders made by the photons-as-billiard-balls
folk, but it doesn’t get you out of the mystery.
 
The really mysterious thing about photodetection is that a given photon (*)
 
incident on a large lossless detector gives rise to exactly one detection
event, with probability spatialy and temporally weighted by E**2.
 
Doesn’t seem so bad yet, but consider this:
If the detector is large compared with the pulse width/c, distant points on
the detector are separated by a spacelike interval.
 
That means that so when point A detects it, there is no way for the
information reach point B before the end of the pulse, when E drops to
zero, and yet experimentally point B doesn’t detect it.
 
(*) a quantized excitation of a harmonic oscillator mode of the EM field in
a given set of boundary conditions)
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
>
We don't have single-photon-on-demand sources, nor perfect detectors.
Both sources and detectors are probabilistic. I'd like to see how
this argument fares using energy resolving detectors like TESs.
>
I do not expect the probability of a detection event in one spot to
be affected instantly by a detection event somewhere else. The
collapse of the wave function is an attempt to apply statistical
reasoning to a single event.
>
Jeroen Belleman

Higher energy photons, like gamma rays, can be detected with 100%
probability. They pack a lot of energy.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jun 24 * Quantum mystics44Jeroen Belleman
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1bitrex
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Quantum mystics26john larkin
9 Jun 24 i`* Re: Quantum mystics25Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics5john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i i `* Re: Quantum mystics3Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i i  `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24 i i   `- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics18bitrex
10 Jun 24 i i+- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i+* Re: Quantum mystics15Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i ii+* Re: Quantum mystics13Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i iii+* Re: Quantum mystics6john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iiii`* Re: Quantum mystics5Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iiii `* Re: Quantum mystics4Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iiii  +* Re: Quantum mystics2john larkin
11 Jun 24 i iiii  i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
11 Jun 24 i iiii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i iii `* Re: Quantum mystics3john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iii  +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i iii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i ii`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 `* Re: Quantum mystics15Jan Panteltje
10 Jun 24  `* Re: Quantum mystics14john larkin
10 Jun 24   `* Re: Quantum mystics13Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    +* Re: Quantum mystics8Martin Brown
10 Jun 24    i`* Re: Quantum mystics7Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i `* Re: Quantum mystics5Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    i  `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
11 Jun 24    i   +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
11 Jun 24    i   `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24    i    `- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24    `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
10 Jun 24     `* Re: Quantum mystics3Jeroen Belleman
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