Re: Quantum mystics

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De : '''newspam''' (at) *nospam* nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
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Date : 11. Jun 2024, 10:01:45
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On 10/06/2024 22:43, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 6/10/24 19:03, Martin Brown wrote:

Experimentally it is quite a tour de force!
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Physical intuition tends to break down when you have a superposition of quantum states involved. Attempting to know which slit a particle actually went through destroys the interference pattern and experiments using ultra low flux levels with just a single photon in at any one time still show a diffraction pattern. QM is decidedly counter intuitive.
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Explores all available paths mathematics gets the right results but I can't help feeling that there is a way to avoid the action at a distance implied by quantum entanglement when we get all of the physics correct.
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I didn't think his talk was all that outrageous. A bit over simplified perhaps but then avoiding almost all of the maths that is inevitable.
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 Over-simplified to the point of being devoid of meaning, indeed.
That is the problem with popular science lectures about QM. This one - a Nobel prize lecture by Serge Heroche from 2012 is a lot more meaty and the experimental techniques they used and perfected are breathtakingly cunning. The audience has quite a few famous physicists in it.
He is wonderfully self effacing and shares the credit for the success of his experiments very generously with his co-winner many collaborators, his team and graduate students.
Non destructive sensing of single atom quantum states is incredibly impressive! I didn't know until I saw that talk that the Schrodinger's cat wavefunction has been experimentally verified.
Basically he has constructed a real life particle in a box experiment!
It took ultracold superconducting hyper polished mirrors to realise it.
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Martin Brown

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jun 24 * Quantum mystics44Jeroen Belleman
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
9 Jun 24 +- Re: Quantum mystics1bitrex
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Quantum mystics26john larkin
9 Jun 24 i`* Re: Quantum mystics25Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics5john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i i `* Re: Quantum mystics3Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i i  `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24 i i   `- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i +* Re: Quantum mystics18bitrex
10 Jun 24 i i+- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24 i i+* Re: Quantum mystics15Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i ii+* Re: Quantum mystics13Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeff Layman
10 Jun 24 i iii+* Re: Quantum mystics6john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iiii`* Re: Quantum mystics5Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iiii `* Re: Quantum mystics4Liz Tuddenham
10 Jun 24 i iiii  +* Re: Quantum mystics2john larkin
11 Jun 24 i iiii  i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
11 Jun 24 i iiii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii+- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i iii`* Re: Quantum mystics4Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i iii `* Re: Quantum mystics3john larkin
10 Jun 24 i iii  +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
10 Jun 24 i iii  `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i ii`- Re: Quantum mystics1Bill Sloman
10 Jun 24 i i`- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 i `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24 `* Re: Quantum mystics15Jan Panteltje
10 Jun 24  `* Re: Quantum mystics14john larkin
10 Jun 24   `* Re: Quantum mystics13Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    +* Re: Quantum mystics8Martin Brown
10 Jun 24    i`* Re: Quantum mystics7Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i +- Re: Quantum mystics1Phil Hobbs
10 Jun 24    i `* Re: Quantum mystics5Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24    i  `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
11 Jun 24    i   +- Re: Quantum mystics1Martin Brown
11 Jun 24    i   `* Re: Quantum mystics2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jun 24    i    `- Re: Quantum mystics1john larkin
10 Jun 24    `* Re: Quantum mystics4john larkin
10 Jun 24     `* Re: Quantum mystics3Jeroen Belleman
10 Jun 24      `* Re: Quantum mystics2john larkin
10 Jun 24       `- Re: Quantum mystics1Jeroen Belleman

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