Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array

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Sujet : Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array
De : jl (at) *nospam* 650pot.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 14. Jun 2024, 17:03:03
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 11:08:56 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:hilo6j9dgctalpiu4v09rpdavf6fetm1cv@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:25:37 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v4f2nm$2augj$1@dont-email.me...
One option John Larjkin doesn't seem to have explored is using Renesas HFA3096 five transistor array as basis for his
mononstable
and level shifter.
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It offers three 8GHz NPN parts and two 5.5GHz PNP parts in a single array.
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https://www.renesas.com/us/en/document/dst/hfa3046-hfa3096-hfa3127-hfa3128-datasheet?r=494216
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I put the NPN model parameters into a circuit designed by yourself.
It's late now but I got as far as Time step too small.
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That is neither fast nor a monostable.
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Yes ok it's an astable and certainly not intended to be fast.
It was intended only to see if the model worked. Nothing more.

It doesn't work!

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There's no reason to use many-GHz parts in micropower circuits. One
reason is that the sim breaks.

Most versions of the HFA3046 are obsolete. The only one left at
Digikey costs $12. It would be risky to design around that part.
Wasn't  HFA originally a Harris part?

There are lots of dual (non-monolithic) diodes and bipolars and fets
around, but the monolithic arrays are mostly gone.

The duals save space, but aren't well matched so are electrically and
thermally equivalent to buying two separate parts.

I wonder if one could design really fast stuff with the HFA3046.
Package parasitics look nasty. And the big package will force ugly PCB
routing. You can plop a single tiny transistor wherever you want.

The HFA parts are either 5 NPNs or 5 PNPs, which is also awkward.



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I do wish people would comment Spice sims properly, with author, date,
and what-the-hell-this-actually-is-supposed-to-do.
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I wonder what happened to James. I think all the flaming here drove
him away. James was fun. He always skis in short pants.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Jun 24 * Fast monostable with a transistpor array35Bill Sloman
14 Jun 24 +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array26Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i+- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array24john larkin
14 Jun 24 i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array23Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array22john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array11Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array10john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i i  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5bitrex
15 Jun 24 i   i  +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i  i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i  i `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Phil Hobbs
15 Jun 24 i   i  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   +- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Gerhard Hoffmann
14 Jun 24 i   +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array7piglet
14 Jun 24 i   i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array6Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4Edward Rawde
15 Jun 24 i   i   `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i    `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2Edward Rawde
15 Jun 24 i   i     `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2legg
15 Jun 24 i    `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
18 Jun 24 `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array8Bill Sloman
18 Jun 24  +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array6john larkin
18 Jun 24  i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5piglet
18 Jun 24  i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4john larkin
19 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array3Bill Sloman
23 Jun 24  i   +- Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array1john larkin
24 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array1Bill Sloman
18 Jun 24  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde

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