Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array

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Sujet : Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array
De : jl (at) *nospam* 650pot.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 14. Jun 2024, 21:57:17
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:19:08 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:m7uo6jhfuobfcjaps5o6hatlnm6ntnv84m@4ax.com...
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 12:44:33 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:viro6jlt7h02ehbsq20em8uv5snn3736up@4ax.com...
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 12:18:23 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:8epo6jhf5k5nbkkqp5ot9b6nq1lhoia870@4ax.com...
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 11:08:56 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:hilo6j9dgctalpiu4v09rpdavf6fetm1cv@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:25:37 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v4f2nm$2augj$1@dont-email.me...
One option John Larjkin doesn't seem to have explored is using Renesas HFA3096 five transistor array as basis for his
mononstable
and level shifter.
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It offers three 8GHz NPN parts and two 5.5GHz PNP parts in a single array.
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https://www.renesas.com/us/en/document/dst/hfa3046-hfa3096-hfa3127-hfa3128-datasheet?r=494216
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I put the NPN model parameters into a circuit designed by yourself.
It's late now but I got as far as Time step too small.
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That is neither fast nor a monostable.
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Yes ok it's an astable and certainly not intended to be fast.
It was intended only to see if the model worked. Nothing more.
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It doesn't work!
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There's no reason to use many-GHz parts in micropower circuits. One
reason is that the sim breaks.
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Most versions of the HFA3046 are obsolete. The only one left at
Digikey costs $12. It would be risky to design around that part.
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If it's obsolete or going obsolete then yes it would make no sense to use it.
I would guess that you get to do plenty of work because a manufacturer has suddenly decided to discontinue a part.
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Wasn't  HFA originally a Harris part?
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There are lots of dual (non-monolithic) diodes and bipolars and fets
around, but the monolithic arrays are mostly gone.
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What part would you recommend (single or dual) and does it have a working LTSpice model?
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Just pull up some parts from the standard library, some low current
NPNs like BC547 maybe. Look for low capacitances if you care about
that; the HFAs are good in that respect.
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Yes but BC547 sounds almost as ancient as BC107
Are they still in production?
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It was just an example of a library part, but Digikey will sell you a
million pieces.
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What would work well at a GHz or two or more?
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For switching? Tuned RF?
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I meant a specific npn part and maybe also pnp which is not going obsolete.
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You can search Mouser or Digikey for a multi-sourced part.

Sadly, fast PNPs are mostly going EOL, faster than NPNs. And all the
good things, like GaN and SiC and phemts, are n-types. Nature must
dislike P-things.

Designing with disctetes is educational, but nowadays ICs are the
practical winners. Like wideband MMICs for 10 cents, opamps and
switching regulators for 15.

Gotta move up the abstraction stack.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Jun 24 * Fast monostable with a transistpor array35Bill Sloman
14 Jun 24 +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array26Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i+- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array24john larkin
14 Jun 24 i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array23Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array22john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array11Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array10john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i i  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5bitrex
15 Jun 24 i   i  +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i  i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i  i `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Phil Hobbs
15 Jun 24 i   i  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   +- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Gerhard Hoffmann
14 Jun 24 i   +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array7piglet
14 Jun 24 i   i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array6Edward Rawde
14 Jun 24 i   i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5john larkin
14 Jun 24 i   i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4Edward Rawde
15 Jun 24 i   i   `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array3john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   i    `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2Edward Rawde
15 Jun 24 i   i     `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1john larkin
15 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array2legg
15 Jun 24 i    `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde
18 Jun 24 `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array8Bill Sloman
18 Jun 24  +* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array6john larkin
18 Jun 24  i`* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array5piglet
18 Jun 24  i `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array4john larkin
19 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array3Bill Sloman
23 Jun15:16  i   +- Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array1john larkin
24 Jun04:48  i   `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistor array1Bill Sloman
18 Jun 24  `- Re: Fast monostable with a transistpor array1Edward Rawde

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