Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs

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Sujet : Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs
De : alien (at) *nospam* comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 16. Jun 2024, 07:26:35
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On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Jun 2024 08:43:12 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jl@650pot.com> wrote in <esar6jdro3r7ki70t17jsmpo48qkkg05na@4ax.com>:

On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 05:57:23 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
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On a sunny day (Fri, 14 Jun 2024 07:55:14 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jl@650pot.com> wrote in <45mo6jhcq8kisjmbrom8i1r17ljr6g4qu8@4ax.com>:
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 07:43:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
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Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs:
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https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/power/article/55041243/monolithic-power-systems-choosing-the-proper-parameters-in-frequency-spread-spectrum-fss-design
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That's cool, except for the usual dreadful fake pcb image.
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Fake?
Sure some fun zig-zag loops in some tracks... ?
Why would anybody bother making artwork like that when you can just take a picture?
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I've wondered that. And when they use a picture, it tends to be some
ancient crufty Dip-package board.
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I have rarely used wiggle traces to add delay, but the fake board
images are full of them. And glowing traces. And vias without holes.
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Hey, the electronic designers here could post pics of our prettiest
real circuit boards.
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We have a bunch of switchers that use our own FPGAs as the
controllers, and I need to start up a project to make them
spread-spectrum.
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I find it interesting, not much experience with spread spectrum,
but a lot with wideband FM modulation like for the old Ampex video recorders... VHS, Umatic, Betamax too.
So with a bit of luck you can send your commercials on a few hundred kHz :-)
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We don't want the ss modulation to show up in the DC outputs as ripple
or anything audible.
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RF wideband filtering, inductors.. capacitors...
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The jitter pattern needs to create spectral spreading at high
frequencies but not change averages at low frequencies. There might be
some math involved.

Yes I'v heard about maaz
I do not see many tennis players use math to calculate how to move and where to point the ball.
Would take too long.
I am but a neural net,
Maaz if for those who cannot get the essence and live in an imaginary world.
A bit like a computer game versus reality, packman comes to mind.
:-)

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Jun 24 * Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs13Jan Panteltje
14 Jun 24 `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs12john larkin
15 Jun 24  +* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs8Jan Panteltje
15 Jun 24  i`* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs7john larkin
16 Jun 24  i `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs6Jan Panteltje
16 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs5john larkin
16 Jun 24  i   +- Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs1Jan Panteltje
24 Jun16:35  i   `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs3Joe Gwinn
24 Jun16:52  i    `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs2john larkin
24 Jun22:34  i     `- Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs1Joe Gwinn
24 Jun16:32  `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs3Joe Gwinn
24 Jun16:53   `* Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs2john larkin
24 Jun22:24    `- Re: Interesting reading about spread-spectrum, also for on-board designs1Joe Gwinn

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