Re: Ambient temperature control

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Sujet : Re: Ambient temperature control
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 02. Jul 2024, 16:21:44
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On 7/2/2024 7:33 AM, legg wrote:
[Gotta wonder why data centers in northern latitudes don't
exploit outside air more agressively during the winter
months!]
>
What are the HVAC costs in data processing and server facilities?
 That's just to maintain ambient <40C.
But datacenters have big heat *generating* loads that they are
trying to offset.  So, you would expect to have sufficient
cooling (and the costs thereof) to remove that "added" load.
Imagine setting a device out in the desert.
Or, *in* the passenger compartment of a parked car.
Or, in an uninsulated attic.
The device's dissipation isn't a significant factor in the
ambient temperature that it experiences -- the "ambient volume"
around it is sufficiently large that it doesn't add to the
problem.  Adding a *fan* (in the device) won't do squat to
improve the situation.
If you're just trying to control the temperature of a component,
you have different options than if you are trying to control
the ambient temperature that a "device" experiences.
If you're trying to ensure the ambient for the device is such
that it "encourages" reliability, then you have a different
problem.  Think of the environment your KWHr meter experiences;
the builder chose its location -- likely without any concern
over sun exposure, etc.
In the 60's, one could state that you needed a particular
environment to operate a particular device (e.g., "a computer
room" for the computer).  Nowadays, your device has to tolerate
the environment (e.g., factory floor -- even in factories that
have few "organic" occupants that could bias the ambient
towards a more comfortable level).  *Or*, modify the "local"
environment to a degree that lets it achieve its performance/longevity
goals.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jul 24 * Ambient temperature control20Don Y
1 Jul 24 +* Re: Ambient temperature control2Bill Sloman
1 Jul 24 i`- Re: Ambient temperature control1John R Walliker
1 Jul 24 +* Re: Ambient temperature control6Martin Brown
1 Jul 24 i+* Re: Ambient temperature control3Don Y
2 Jul 24 ii`* Re: Ambient temperature control2legg
2 Jul 24 ii `- Re: Ambient temperature control1Don Y
1 Jul 24 i`* Re: Ambient temperature control2Phil Hobbs
2 Jul 24 i `- Re: Ambient temperature control1Bill Sloman
1 Jul 24 `* Re: Ambient temperature control11legg
1 Jul 24  +* Re: Ambient temperature control4john larkin
2 Jul 24  i`* Re: Ambient temperature control3legg
2 Jul 24  i `* Re: Ambient temperature control2john larkin
3 Jul 24  i  `- Re: Ambient temperature control1legg
1 Jul 24  `* Re: Ambient temperature control6Don Y
2 Jul 24   `* Re: Ambient temperature control5legg
2 Jul 24    `* Re: Ambient temperature control4Don Y
3 Jul 24     `* Re: Ambient temperature control3legg
3 Jul 24      `* Re: Ambient temperature control2Don Y
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