Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables

On 4/07/2024 7:06 pm, alan_m wrote:

On 04/07/2024 09:25, Bill Sloman wrote:
 

What a load of pretentious crap. Renewable energy sources are the cheapest power sources around,

 Another half truth by the industry. It's only cheaper when it works and if you ignore the backup required for when it doesn't and the extra infrastructure costs required to distribute it.

Rubbish.

There is growing  concern about the cost of distribution network (pylons and wires) that need to be installed to far flung parts of the country and there are already campaigns from the "not in my backyard" groups opposed to this extension to the national grid.

There always are. The grid gets built anyway.

Even green environmentalists are complaining about the installation of wind turbines on the sky line in areas of natural beauty. 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Having local power distribution to keep your household appliances running does tend to trump aesthetic considerations.

Just wait until we are all forced to have electric central heating and EVs and we use 2x to 3x more electricity and the infrastructure in our urban roads has to be upgraded to meet demand. Decades of disruption and a high cost that has to passed on to the consumer.

The electrical distribution infra-structure has been being extended and enlarged since we got to the point of having national grids at all - and half the cost of the electricity I use pays for the distribution system.
Renewables come in smaller modules than the old coal and gas-fired plants, so they can be put closer to where the power is consumed.

and EV let you travel more cheaply than you can in a car with an internal combustion engine.

 Not for long. The UK Government relies on the large amounts of fuel tax from petrol and diesel.  As EVs become more popular this tax revenue diminishes. The Government will soon claw it back in one way or another. Road fund tax or pay by the mile toll charges etc.

Think about it - though you wouldn't be peddling this fatuous line if you could think. I'm already paying road tolls to use Sydney's freeways.
Electricity isn't susceptible to separate taxation in the way that internal combustion engine fuel is, and the price advantage is in the better efficiency of the energy delivery to the car wheels.

Are you actually factoring in the extra cost of a EV and depreciation into your mileage costs?

EV's used to be more expensive that combustion-engined vehicle because they were produced in smaller volumes. This isn't true any longer, and - as machines - EV's are quite a bit less complicated. Think about that too if you ever get a brain implant.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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