Re: Intel

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Sujet : Re: Intel
De : dp (at) *nospam* tgi-sci.com (Dimiter_Popoff)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 04. Aug 2024, 22:47:59
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On 8/4/2024 1:54, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 03.08.24 um 23:52 schrieb Phil Hobbs:
On 2024-08-03 17:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2024 17:18:33 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
On Sat, 03 Aug 2024 12:32:23 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>
https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/08/02/the-resurrection-of-intel-will-take-more-than-three-days/?td=rt-3a
>
Looks like they wrecked Altera.
 Altera was founded with Intel money, and the Intel Eprom process.
Remember the EP300?
 
And hung onto the Intel '86 architecture a tad too tightly, for far
too long.
 In the last 20 years, Intel processors had nothing to do with the x86
architecture, except that they could accept x86 code after reset.
Inside, they are a bunch of RISCs, and there is no EAX register but
some 100s of renaming registers that all could take the role of EAX,
in case of speculative execution even some of them at the same time.
So do they have any instruction set available to the programmer other
than the x86 one or is all this just an emulation of x86 code.
Is there a programming model to be seen in some public document
describing all those many registers. Last time I (vaguely) checked
all I could see were the x86 registers, just made longer - which
brings with itself all the limitations the x86 architecture has
always had, just going over them faster by faster silicon.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Aug 24 * Intel43John Larkin
3 Aug 24 `* Re: Intel42Joe Gwinn
3 Aug 24  +* Re: Intel30John Larkin
3 Aug 24  i+* Re: Intel4Phil Hobbs
3 Aug 24  ii`* Re: Intel3Gerhard Hoffmann
4 Aug 24  ii `* Re: Intel2Dimiter_Popoff
5 Aug 24  ii  `- Re: Intel1Don Y
5 Aug 24  i`* Re: Intel25John Larkin
5 Aug 24  i `* Re: Intel24John Larkin
6 Aug 24  i  +* Re: Intel21Jan Panteltje
6 Aug 24  i  i+* Re: Intel17Bill Sloman
6 Aug 24  i  ii`* Re: Intel16Jan Panteltje
6 Aug 24  i  ii +* Re: Intel3John Larkin
7 Aug 24  i  ii i+- Re: Intel1Jan Panteltje
17 Aug 24  i  ii i`- Re: Intel1Bill Sloman
7 Aug 24  i  ii `* Re: Intel12Bill Sloman
7 Aug 24  i  ii  `* Re: Intel11Jan Panteltje
7 Aug 24  i  ii   `* Re: Intel10Bill Sloman
7 Aug 24  i  ii    `* Re: Intel9Jan Panteltje
7 Aug 24  i  ii     `* Re: Intel8Bill Sloman
7 Aug 24  i  ii      `* Re: Intel7Jan Panteltje
8 Aug 24  i  ii       `* Re: Intel6Bill Sloman
8 Aug 24  i  ii        `* Re: Intel5Jan Panteltje
10 Aug 24  i  ii         `* Re: Intel4Bill Sloman
12 Aug 24  i  ii          `* Re: Intel3brian
12 Aug 24  i  ii           `* Re: Intel2John Larkin
12 Aug 24  i  ii            `- Re: Intel1Phil Hobbs
6 Aug 24  i  i`* Re: Intel3John Larkin
7 Aug 24  i  i +- Re: Intel1Bill Sloman
7 Aug 24  i  i `- Re: Intel1Jan Panteltje
6 Aug 24  i  `* Re: Intel2bitrex
6 Aug 24  i   `- Re: Intel1John Larkin
3 Aug 24  `* Re: Intel11Don Y
3 Aug 24   `* Re: Intel10TTman
3 Aug 24    +* Re: Intel3John Larkin
4 Aug 24    i`* Re: Intel2Joe Gwinn
4 Aug 24    i `- Re: Intel1John Larkin
3 Aug 24    `* Re: Intel6Don Y
4 Aug 24     `* Re: Intel5piglet
4 Aug 24      +- Re: Intel1Don Y
4 Aug 24      `* Re: Intel3Edward Rawde
4 Aug 24       +- Re: Intel1John Larkin
4 Aug 24       `- Re: Intel1Don Y

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