Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $500

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Sujet : Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $500
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
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Date : 05. Aug 2024, 01:46:15
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On 4/08/2024 11:05 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
  https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/hackers-hope-to-democratize-laser-based-processor-hacking-dollar500-rayv-lite-relies-on-3d-printing-a-laser-pen-and-a-raspberry-pi-to-bring-costs-down#main
I actually worked on a electron-microscope based electron beam tester in the late 1980's.
We weren't proposing to offer EBIC - electron beam induced change - though we had on an earlier tester, and nobody had used it (probably because it can permanently mess up the chip).
A laser-based microscope won't have the resolution to focus the beam on a specific transistor - and there were millions of transistors on the sort of chips we were expecting to test, even back then.
Electron microscopes do offer better image resolution. Optical lithography now depends on a 14 nanometer wavelength light source - a 300 nanometre wavelenght laser isn't in the hunt.
And we expected that our customers would have access to the chip layout and schematic so that they would be able to work out which transistor did what.
The hackers might well be able mess up the operation of the chips that they point their laser-beams at, but they won't be able to do it in any kind of systematic way.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Aug 24 * Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $50013Jan Panteltje
4 Aug 24 +* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5008Cursitor Doom
4 Aug 24 i`* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5007Edward Rawde
4 Aug 24 i +* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5002Don Y
4 Aug 24 i i`- Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5001Don Y
5 Aug 24 i `* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5004Jan Panteltje
5 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5003Bill Sloman
6 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5002John Larkin
6 Aug 24 i    `- Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5001Bill Sloman
4 Aug 24 +* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5003John Larkin
5 Aug 24 i`* Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5002Jan Panteltje
5 Aug 24 i `- Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5001Bill Sloman
5 Aug 24 `- Re: Hackers hope to democratize laser-based processor hacking for $5001Bill Sloman

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