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De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
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Date : 17. Aug 2024, 16:56:32
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On 18/08/2024 12:00 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 06:26:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
 
On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:07:52 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in <06jvbjp36khao0m5ot65a1o1krricoasre@4ax.com>:
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It's just code.
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Not any more it isn't.
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Those giant computer networks don't run code?
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Your lack of understanding is a handicap.
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Your lack of imagination ditto.
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Well, there is a bit of your lack of understanding
 So you understand how brains work?
Nobody does, but it is being worked on.

Where are images stored, and how can one recognize and name one of
maybe a million storted images in a fraction of a second?
Functional magnetic resonance imaging does give some insight into where the processing happens as various - short - times after the human brain has been exposed to a stimulus. Not a hell of lot so far, but it is being worked on.

You know about analog computing
So big neural networks are basically imitations of the analog brain.
But you can do a lot in hardware such as storing the 'weights' and vector multiplication. communication.
My suggestion is for you, just as a free time project, code some neural net.
Or at least look up how it works:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network
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No need for digital at all.
https://research.ibm.com/projects/analog-ai
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OTOH my opinion is that our brain stores memory in RNA and DNA, strong hint is that
newborn species of many types know how the move, find food, interpret what they see and feel, etc.
Recent research found that in those neurons some data is stored in such a basic form as RNA,
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Nature .. we still invent thing nature already had millions of years ago.
 I've been in several situations where people wanted to use NN's. It
never actually worked. It doesn't make sense.
They seem to work in speech recognition
https://theaisummer.com/speech-recognition/
I knew a couple of people that worked on that, and lots of neural nets didn't work, but there seems to have been progress on finding variations that can be made to work progressively better.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Aug 24 * yes!92john larkin
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!6Joe Gwinn
15 Aug 24 i`* Re: yes!5john larkin
15 Aug 24 i `* Re: yes!4Edward Rawde
15 Aug 24 i  `* Re: yes!3john larkin
15 Aug 24 i   +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
15 Aug 24 i   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
15 Aug 24 +- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!4Jeroen Belleman
15 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
16 Aug 24 i`- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
15 Aug 24 +* Re: yes!79Martin Brown
15 Aug 24 i+* Re: yes!76john larkin
16 Aug 24 ii+* Re: yes!5Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 iii`* Re: yes!4john larkin
17 Aug 24 iii +- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 iii `* Re: yes!2Jeroen Belleman
17 Aug 24 iii  `- Re: yes!1Martin Brown
16 Aug 24 ii`* Re: yes!70Martin Brown
17 Aug 24 ii +* Re: yes!50john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii i+* Re: yes!48Jan Panteltje
17 Aug 24 ii ii`* Re: yes!47john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii ii +* Re: yes!3Jan Panteltje
17 Aug 24 ii ii i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii ii i `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii ii +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii ii `* Re: yes!42Edward Rawde
17 Aug 24 ii ii  `* Re: yes!41john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii ii   `* Re: yes!40Bill Sloman
18 Aug 24 ii ii    `* Re: yes!39john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii ii     `* Re: yes!38Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii ii      `* Re: yes!37john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii ii       +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii       `* Re: yes!35john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii        `* Re: yes!34Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         +* Re: yes!32john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i+* Re: yes!22Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii`* Re: yes!21john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii `* Re: yes!20Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii  `* Re: yes!19john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   `* Re: yes!18Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii    `* Re: yes!17Phil Hobbs
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii     `* Re: yes!16Martin Brown
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii      `* Re: yes!15john larkin
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       +* Re: yes!2Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       i`- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii       `* Re: yes!11Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        +* Re: yes!8john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i`* Re: yes!7Jan Panteltje
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i +* Re: yes!2john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i i`- Re: yes!1Jeroen Belleman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i `* Re: yes!4Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i  +- Re: yes!1john larkin
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i  `* Re: yes!2Jan Panteltje
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        i   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii        `* Re: yes!2Gerhard Hoffmann
22 Aug 24 ii ii         ii         `- Re: yes!1Jan Panteltje
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i+* Re: yes!6Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii         ii`* Re: yes!5Edward Rawde
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii `* Re: yes!4john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii  `* Re: yes!3Jeroen Belleman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
21 Aug 24 ii ii         ii   `- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
20 Aug 24 ii ii         i`* Re: yes!3Joe Gwinn
21 Aug 24 ii ii         i `* Re: yes!2john larkin
21 Aug 24 ii ii         i  `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
20 Aug 24 ii ii         `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii i`- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii `* Re: yes!19john larkin
17 Aug 24 ii  +- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
17 Aug 24 ii  +- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
17 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: yes!16Martin Brown
18 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: yes!15john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii    `* Re: yes!14Bill Sloman
18 Aug 24 ii     `* Re: yes!13john larkin
18 Aug 24 ii      +* Re: yes!3Edward Rawde
18 Aug 24 ii      i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii      i `- Re: yes!1Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii      `* Re: yes!9Bill Sloman
19 Aug 24 ii       `* Re: yes!8Jan Panteltje
19 Aug 24 ii        `* Re: yes!7john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii         +* Re: yes!3Phil Hobbs
19 Aug 24 ii         i`* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii         i `- Re: yes!1Phil Hobbs
19 Aug 24 ii         `* Re: yes!3Joe Gwinn
19 Aug 24 ii          `* Re: yes!2john larkin
19 Aug 24 ii           `- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
16 Aug 24 i+- Re: yes!1Joe Gwinn
16 Aug 24 i`- Re: yes!1Edward Rawde
19 Aug 24 `- Re: yes!1Sylvia Else

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