Re: DC relay latching voltage

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Sujet : Re: DC relay latching voltage
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 24. Aug 2024, 07:29:48
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On 8/23/2024 10:05 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024-08-23 12:43 p.m., Don Y wrote:
On 8/23/2024 7:36 AM, John Robertson wrote:
I assume you have the normal back diode across the coil for clamping the ringing voltage.
If you care about the life of the relay (and how well it "opens"),
a better approach is to add a zener rated at the coil voltage in
series with that diode.  The diode, by itself, delays opening of
the contacts and leads to more opportunities for arcing.  The
zener speeds up this transition.
 Don't you mean that one could use a zener diode in place of the back-EMF diode - or parallel with it?
In series.  It speeds up the decay of the magnetic field (and, thus, the
opening of the armature) by allowing a higher potential to exist across
the coil while it is "opening".  The ideal condition is with NO catch diode
(but that tends to fry solid state switches!  :> )  You're making a
snubber, of sorts.

We've been using 1N400X (and 3A in some cases)diodes since the 70s for protecting pinball driver transistors - not too worried about the decay time so haven't really looked deeper into it before.
It really only matters if you are really concerned over the actual opening
time (delay) of the relay and/or how long you want the relay (contacts) to
last.  (many of my designs have to have service lives of decades or more.)
<https://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv&DocNm=13C3264_AppNote&DocType=CS&DocLang=EN> will give you a quick overview.
I have better notes from (relay) application engineers but I'm busy baking,
tonight, so can only take quick pokes at my mail, etc.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Aug 24 * Re: DC relay latching voltage26piglet
23 Aug 24 `* Re: DC relay latching voltage25John Robertson
23 Aug 24  +* Re: DC relay latching voltage20Don Y
24 Aug 24  i+* Re: DC relay latching voltage18John Robertson
24 Aug 24  ii+* Re: DC relay latching voltage15Don Y
25 Aug 24  iii+* Re: DC relay latching voltage13John Robertson
25 Aug 24  iiii+* Re: DC relay latching voltage3Don Y
25 Aug 24  iiiii`* Re: DC relay latching voltage2Don Y
26 Aug 24  iiiii `- Re: DC relay latching voltage1john larkin
25 Aug 24  iiii`* Re: DC relay latching voltage9piglet
25 Aug 24  iiii `* Re: DC relay latching voltage8Don Y
25 Aug 24  iiii  `* Re: DC relay latching voltage7Don Y
25 Aug 24  iiii   `* Re: DC relay latching voltage6John Robertson
25 Aug 24  iiii    `* Re: DC relay latching voltage5Don Y
26 Aug 24  iiii     `* Re: DC relay latching voltage4John Robertson
26 Aug 24  iiii      `* Re: DC relay latching voltage3Don Y
26 Aug 24  iiii       `* Re: DC relay latching voltage2John Robertson
26 Aug 24  iiii        `- Re: DC relay latching voltage1Don Y
25 Aug 24  iii`- Re: DC relay latching voltage1john larkin
25 Aug 24  ii`* Re: DC relay latching voltage2john larkin
25 Aug 24  ii `- Re: DC relay latching voltage1John Robertson
24 Aug 24  i`- Re: DC relay latching voltage1Lasse Langwadt
24 Aug 24  `* Re: DC relay latching voltage4Liz Tuddenham
24 Aug 24   +* Re: DC relay latching voltage2john larkin
25 Aug 24   i`- Re: DC relay latching voltage1piglet
25 Aug 24   `- Re: DC relay latching voltage1Liz Tuddenham

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