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De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 27. Aug 2024, 15:07:25
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Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
On 2024-08-27, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
 
Anyone have experience with dual coil latching relays? I'm trying to
replace old (1950s) Guardian latch relays as used in 1950s style
jukeboxes with more modern two coil latching relays but have had trouble
with some relays going to an indeterminate state if the power to the
coil is  below optimum.
 
What I actually need to do is a circuit that only allows the Latch/Reset
coils to trip when there is sufficient voltage and current available...
 
This somewhat plays into the discussion on DC relay latching voltage
thread and I'm wondering if the Zener diode across the windings or in
series with the windings might help my design.
 
As for the old original relays, the contacts are getting so pitted they
can't be saved and Guardian hasn't made this coil assy for decades. They
don't turn up on eBay either.
 
Two opposed solenoids and an arm on the spindle of a rotary switch.
 
Or on an bank of opposed microswitches.  I've seen that done except
the solenoide were a telephone ringer hammer driver.
 

The rated lifetime of your average switch is a small fraction of your
average relay’s, even if you don’t abuse it like that.

Some microswitches are better, but still not the 1E7 of a good relay iirc.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs  Principal Consultant  ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics  Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Aug 24 * Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...19John Robertson
26 Aug 24 +- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1John Robertson
26 Aug 24 +* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...12Don Y
26 Aug 24 i+* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...10John Robertson
26 Aug 24 ii+- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1Don Y
27 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...8Phil Hobbs
27 Aug 24 ii `* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...7john larkin
27 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...6John Robertson
27 Aug 24 ii   +- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1john larkin
28 Aug 24 ii   +- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1legg
5 Dec 24 ii   `* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...3David Lesher
6 Dec 24 ii    +- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1Don Y
10 Dec 24 ii    `- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1John Robertson
27 Aug 24 i`- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1john larkin
27 Aug 24 +* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...2Liz Tuddenham
27 Aug 24 i`- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1Phil Hobbs
27 Aug 24 `* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...3piglet
27 Aug 24  `* Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...2John Robertson
27 Aug 24   `- Re: Replacing mechanical Latching Relays with dual coil relays...1Joe Gwinn

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