Re: Low spec 'scope.

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Sujet : Re: Low spec 'scope.
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 28. Aug 2024, 21:05:44
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On 8/28/2024 9:05 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/08/2024 16:32, Don Y wrote:
On 8/28/2024 7:47 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/08/2024 08:39, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
The recent thread on high-end oscilloscopes has reminded me of a project
that I shelved some years ago and might be due for resurrection:  I am
looking for a real-time display about 3" x 4" that can behave as an X-Y
oscilloscope with a bandwidth of about 100 Kc/s; a flat panel would be
ideal.
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Currently I am using an actual X-Y oscillocsope to monitor the output
from a stereo gramophone cartridge, which allows me to check historic
discs for damage or faulty recording geometry.  The tube is about 14"
long, which means it has to be a standalone shelf unit and I can't build
anything like it into portable equipment.
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I think that Daqarta software can probably do about what you want using the PC stereo soundcard to digitise X & Y. 100kHz bandwidth might be pushing it but it should be fine for audio up to 20kHz.
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Does it *simultaneously* sample each channel?  Or, toggle between them?
 I have never looked hard enough or at a high enough frequency to tell the difference.
The OP would have to consider whether or not that would be significant
to their needs.  I.e., a *real* 'scope would be driving the X&Y deflection
amplifiers simultaneously.  No idea how the anomalies sought would
manifest...

Audio demo's work best around 440Hz orchestral A which most people can hear well. Waveform shapes and sounds are fun demos.
 The guy knows what he is doing so I expect it is simultaneous sampling of the waveforms to within a few memory cycles. Skew only becoming a problem at very high frequencies. It is cute there is a free trial period and you get to keep the (audio) waveform generator.
But, wouldn't that depend on the *hardware's* capabilities?
I've not looked at the details of a sound card since the PAS-16 (!)
so have no idea what the current "standards" dictate.  Now, I only
use sound cards to play music...

There is something similar for Android tablet/phones too but I don't think that one does X-Y Lissajous figures (I could be wrong about that). The waterfall spectrograph is quite a handy toy to have on your phone...
 
The advantage would be that you could locate the data acquisition
hardware separately from the (COTS) display.
 It is a neat piece of software. Every now and then AV codes take against it because it does do a bit of rather low level IO access (obviously).

Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Aug 24 * Low spec 'scope.20Liz Tuddenham
28 Aug 24 +- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Liz Tuddenham
28 Aug 24 +* Re: Low spec 'scope.3Jan Panteltje
28 Aug 24 i`* Re: Low spec 'scope.2Liz Tuddenham
28 Aug 24 i `- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Jan Panteltje
28 Aug 24 `* Re: Low spec 'scope.15Martin Brown
28 Aug 24  `* Re: Low spec 'scope.14Don Y
28 Aug 24   +* Re: Low spec 'scope.2Martin Brown
28 Aug 24   i`- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Don Y
29 Aug 24   +* Re: Low spec 'scope.8Liz Tuddenham
29 Aug 24   i+* Re: Low spec 'scope.5Jan Panteltje
29 Aug 24   ii`* Re: Low spec 'scope.4Liz Tuddenham
29 Aug 24   ii `* Re: Low spec 'scope.3Jan Panteltje
29 Aug 24   ii  `* Re: Low spec 'scope.2Liz Tuddenham
29 Aug 24   ii   `- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Jan Panteltje
29 Aug 24   i`* Re: Low spec 'scope.2Martin Brown
29 Aug 24   i `- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Liz Tuddenham
29 Aug 24   `* Re: Low spec 'scope.3Don Y
30 Aug 24    +- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Jan Panteltje
30 Aug 24    `- Re: Low spec 'scope.1Don Y

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