Re: Instead scopes

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De : jlarkin_highland_tech (at) *nospam* nirgendwo (john larkin)
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Date : 31. Aug 2024, 15:03:51
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:03:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

On 31/08/2024 3:14 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:17:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
 
On 30/08/2024 4:59 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:23:19 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
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On 29/08/2024 2:32 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
<ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>
john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
<ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>
john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>
john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states.
>
Other than the lack of software features,  the 200mhz bw for 350
dollars is intriguing.
>
Cheers
>
It sounds pretty good to me.
>
https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf
>
What's missing?
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I like the 500 uV/div.
>
If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope
for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has
all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work
from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that
feels like relic next to those DHOs.
>
We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz
DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz)
>
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0
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and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler.
>
I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :)
>
At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have
half a million dollars worth of sampling heads.
>
The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but
the old B+W screens photograph better.
>
I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies.
>
The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on
transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR.
>
It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be
completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity.
>
Or a least to be able to react to John Larkin's insultingly trivial
questions in a way that leaves him thinking that.
>
Maybe he didn't understand the answers.
>
You're impossible to talk too. Your only motivation is to insult.
>
If your idea of a conversation is one where you get flattered nonstop,
I'm not the ideal conversational partner.
>
 
My idea of good conversation is a group of people playing with ideas
and inventing stuff together. "Egoless" is the word, as in "egoless
programming."
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egoless_programming
 
I don't think you can do that. Some people are too fragile.
>
Your opinion is noted. I doubt if the people with whom I have
collaborated would agree.
>
Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A
microcontroller-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical
stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a
thermistor sensor” Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)

You did one academic, unremarkable  temperature controller, published
in a journal, and have cited it here maybe 50 times now. Do something
new.

Here's my millikelven temperature controller.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/emxfaurnyj35t0y84tvwl/Oven_Cables_pub.jpg?rlkey=jpcnmnt1pcooz9nj7d0j4rah0&raw=1

That's a dual-stage Mach-Zender e/o modulartor whose extinction is
much better if the temperature is stable to milllikelvins. The big
hogged-aluminum box is heated by six mosfets on the bottom, and there
are four thermistors for feedback. It runs at 30C.

This is part of the modulation system for a big laser.

I really over-did it on the enclosure. It's a lot heavier than it
really needed to be.



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