Re: Visualizing

On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:02:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Sun, 08 Sep 2024 09:39:49 -0700) it happened john larkin
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On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 06:44:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:39:46 -0700) it happened john larkin
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:04:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Fri, 6 Sep 2024 15:08:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobbs
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john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:

 
 
I was driving and listening to the local mostly-annoying NPR radio
station, but they had an interesting interview with a book author. It
was about his novel or some poetry or something.
 
What was interesting was his recalling a conversation that he'd had
with his wife. She was takling about a plant or something and asked
him to visualize it. He was astounded that she, or anyone, could close
their eyes and *see* something they were thinking about.
 
I was shocked to learn that there are people who can't form a mental
visual image.
 
Close your eyes and consider a nice white ceramic dinner plate with a
beautiful deep red apple sitting in the center. Can you see it? From
the side and from the top? Do you see the stem? The colors? Imagine it
slowly rotating? See the fruit fly?
 
If the world is divided between people who can visualise and people
who can't, that could explain a great deal.
 
 

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Or people who have a dialogue going on in their heads all the time.
Apparently that’s most people.

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I never had that.
I do 2 hours of meditation a day.

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But you could sleep for those two hours!

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Maybe, dream? I hardly dream at all.. few hours of sleep is normal, 4 hours or so.

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Yikes. 9 or 10 for me. When I was younger, I'd sleep for 12.
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I don't dream much that I know of, and the rare dream is just a bit of
everyday life. My wife has nightmares.
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I do solve problems and design stuff while I sleep, and wake up
briefly to take notes.

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Do not even have a pen near to my bed :-)
As to 'visualizing' sound,
I remember you talking about alligator sounds messing with some measurements
now imagine (visualize) a very young alligator making a more high pitched sound...
There is music! rhythmhythm counts too.

I designed an acoustic monitoring system for NASA, for measuring sound
levels around their Mississippi Test Facility, where they tested the
moon rocket engines. It was claimed that my electronics was
oscillating at low frerquencies. After some research, it was
determined to be subsonic mating calls of bull alligators, which may
have been previously unknown.

We used a temperature-controlled GR electret microphone, new
technology at the time. I dumped it into a jfet follower with no gate
resistor, which was controversial.

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Visualizing... you are in the garden, big disc like thing descends next to you on the grass
sort of a door opens, clever looking creature steps out,
says "are you John Larkin?" you acknowledge, creature asks for a Ge PNP transistor to fix his disc ..
you have none, wants to help fix his spacecraft, creature shows his electronic box
with all sorts of stuff in it, little blobs covering little chips
funny connectors, joystick for steering his disc and a picture of his Ohm planet...
you design a replacement circuit for the GE PNP ... solder it in place,
creature is grateful and gives you a little box , goes back in the disc and warps away
You open the box and see
Russian doll Matroesjka ?
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After posting about China wanting to do a Mars return here,
now ELon wants to do a manned Mars mission before 2028 I just did read.
It is all over the net:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Elon-Musk-pegs-the-first-human-flight-to-Mars-for-2028-with-a-colony-to-follow-in-20-years.885865.0.html